What am i doing wrong?

Herculezz

ISX Specialist
I have the following group setup

Guard (Full T1, Full Expert, Epic)
Warden (Full T1, Full Expert, Epic)
Conjuror (Full T1, Full Expert, Epic)
Wizard (Full T4, Full Master, Myth)

and they cant even handle the easies of the tso zones? my guard gets 2 shooted by trash and alot of the time one shotted by the names. I can not figure it out my wizard can take hits almost as good? also the warden seems to cast all his heals but it just isnt enough to keep the guard up?

any ideas I am getting frustrated with this plate tank seeming like a squishy. and the healer not being able to keep up?
 

wired203

Active Member
Pre-heal or Pre-ward options on the healers are musts, gives them time to be ramped up. Make sure to taunt away the initial hate of it on a pull.
 

Herculezz

ISX Specialist
yea i do and it makes me last 10-15secs longer but eventually i just end up dieng when the named gets around 60%
 

wired203

Active Member
I really haven't run the TSO zones other than gray, but would sound like if you get them to 60% and are just ad3 on spells etc that you need more DPS since they really are balanced for 6 chars.

Now really well geared and spelled people could easily do those with 4.
 

bjcasey

ISX Specialist
I hate to say it, but it's a gear issue. When TSO was released I was playing my warden that was in top end heroic gear and I couldn't solo heal an equally geared tank in Deep Forge with them dying due to the amount of damage coming in. Fast forward to full T2 +mythical and things are way different. I'd suggest grabbing some grey shards and move up to T2 to make things easier.
 

Twiddle

Active Member
Just a quick question - dont you have problems with your wizard pulling aggro from the guardian? T4 + Myth'd he'd ususally be a aggro-machine. And with a tank in T1 + Fabled; i see a dead wizard :p

~ Twiddle
 

Herculezz

ISX Specialist
Yes Very much so. Even with crazy taunting and reinforcement he still grabs aggro. Funny thing is he almost tanks the mobs better lol. Lets just say my wiz has over 75% Debt
 

wolfppo

Active Member
Make sure you have moderate on the wizzy it will cut his aggro down alot and do the gray zones it will help alot when your a t2 guard gl .
 

Twiddle

Active Member
Moderate wouldnt be enough to keep up with the wizzie. Amends - that'd have helped a lot, though. But i agree, start out doing the gray instances for a week or so, and you'll have almost all of your T2 - and you're ready for some of the more interesting encounters :)

You might wanna implement a aggro-check in your wiz-bot. Use the new .ThreatToMe on the actors to see if you should hold your nukes a bit. Make sure your wizard gets his storming tempest off, and magma chamber to lock down the mob, keeping it stunned for most of the time.

On TSO stuff you cant just nuke away, my wizbot have taken a lot of tweaking - but now it plays exactly like i would myself.

~ Twiddle
 

Herculezz

ISX Specialist
Yea I will look into that new ThreatToMe Feature and implement it into my wiz bot. I'm like you my wiz bot is completely re writted from the ground up basically there where things i did not like about it that I had to eliminate for example how it doesnt cast in an exact prioirty spell list order even with the latest update. It still cycles through 3 spells and casts the next one its hitting when your done casting. I wanted mine to do the exact next spell so I made the combat routine return after each spell cast or queue which effectively casts a spell and queus the next highest priority spell and then just keeps it queued until it casts(or a better priority spell becomes active) then queues the next. Also the CastSpellRange function has issues not sure what they are but it for one slows down the casting (making a decrease in DPS) and for some reason and randomly it will just stop casting all together for a good 5-10 seconds before starting casting back up so I eliminated that and went with a new routine using the Me.Ability[]:Use which causes no lag at all the bot can be fighting for 30 minutes and never once stop casting (except in situations where no spell is avail or power is gone) my method may not be the best out there but it works for me and my wiz geared above in raids does 10-12k dps with a max so far of 20k (would be higher but most guildes are T2 or T3 Geared plus no TC :( ). I also added NRoR to it :p
 
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