Matri Marn

[larrydoyle]

Good news ... we've gotten to her in Sanctum.
Bad news ... in a regular (people) raid, we usually stun/interrupt the one healer add that comes at 75% with at least 2 coercers, kill the add that does the nasty aoe quickly, kill the next add, and then finally the healing one.
Not sure that's even the best strat, or how others would handle botting. Ogre raid notes state "Note: it is your responsible to take care of the stunning/messing/whatever you want to do with the adds at 75%".
So, anybody else successfully bot this encounter, and what did you do about the adds?
Funny thing is, pretty sure the last named will be easier than this one for our groups.
Appreciate strats and advice!

 

[Kannkor]

Good news ... we've gotten to her in Sanctum.
Bad news ... in a regular (people) raid, we usually stun/interrupt the one healer add that comes at 75% with at least 2 coercers, kill the add that does the nasty aoe quickly, kill the next add, and then finally the healing one.
Not sure that's even the best strat, or how others would handle botting. Ogre raid notes state "Note: it is your responsible to take care of the stunning/messing/whatever you want to do with the adds at 75%".
So, anybody else successfully bot this encounter, and what did you do about the adds?
Funny thing is, pretty sure the last named will be easier than this one for our groups.
Appreciate strats and advice!

I'd say do the exact same thing as you did with a real raid... stun/interrupt the healer...

 

[mistahmikey]

With 2 coercers and one illusionist in the raid, I disable their Ogre casting entirely, and instead manage the casting of their various stun spells on Yurit from my main tank by monitoring the mob for the resulting stun effect. A couple seconds before the anticipated duration of the stun effect expires (or I determine it is not up for some other reason, usually because the effect has dropped off the end of the 30 that are reported), I have one of the enchanters cast a stun, so for the most part, he remains perma-stunned. I first kill Kyris, then Badum, and when both are dead, I reenable Ogre casting on the enchanters and kill Yurit. Of course, during all of this, you have to drag the raid around manually to get them out of the fog of death as necessary.

You might be able to get away with doing this all in Ogre by putting all enchanter stuns/interrupts at the top of the cast order, but for whatever reason, I could not get this to work reliably. Once I scripted it as described (which, btw, is not a trivial undertaking), the fight became easy for me.

 

[larrydoyle]

Mistahmikey:

First, thanks a lot for the reply. Just to make sure I understand, you are actually stunning and killing the healer first, and then moving on to the other two adds? How are you avoiding the big aoe that I think Badum casts? I seem to remember that it could not be blocked with BD or TS and the range was almost the whole room, so are you jousting that somehow or does every group have equilibrium? You kill order is different than what we did in raid; we stunned Yurit and killed Badum first, primarily to try and kill him before he did his first AOE. Then we killed Yurit and finally Kryis. It was all to get the AOE out of the equation.

i get the idea of just letting ogre handle the main named while you switch to actively playing the toons stunning and burning Yurit. Thanks!

 

[mistahmikey]

Sorry, I did misspeak before - I kill Kyris first, then badum, then Yurit (I have edited the original post to correct this error). The AE does not hurt my raid much. Perhaps my healing setup is different, my healers are always maxed out for heals, they do zippity-do-dah DPS. I tend to favor killing slowly and surviving over a burn fest, but that's me. Generally speaking, I tend to arrange heals in this order - cures, curse cures, group wards/HoTs (combat or very low health threshold, depending on recast), group heals, single target wards/HoTs (on who needs them the most), single target heals. Of course, the specifics for any given healer are a bit more complicated to accommodate fight/raid makeup specifics.

 

[fl0pster]

Just Setup a stun profile for all the toons that have stuns and put them at the top of the cast bar...
Load said profile for any fight that requires stunning of a particular mob.
have all toons your wanting to stun the mob assist one of the coercers with an auto target setup for which MOB needs stunned...

pull and enjoy your loot..

 

[Kannkor]

Just Setup a stun profile for all the toons that have stuns and put them at the top of the cast bar...
Load said profile for any fight that requires stunning of a particular mob.
have all toons your wanting to stun the mob assist one of the coercers with an auto target setup for which MOB needs stunned...

pull and enjoy your loot..

One improvement (IMO) to this.

Using your every day profile, add the stuns/stifles/interrupts to the top, then disable them.
Now, create a MCP button (I use OgreIRC personally), that ChangeCastStack each item with 'toggle'.
When you come to a mob that requires it, hit your button. It turns them on (and turns off any entry of the same ability that is on, which doesn't matter).

When you are done with that mob, press it again, it turns off the ones at the top, then turns on the same abilities it turned off above.
I personally have all of these in 1 MCP button so I can globally make all my toons max s/s/I with the click of a button.

 

[fl0pster]

One improvement (IMO) to this.

Using your every day profile, add the stuns/stifles/interrupts to the top, then disable them.
Now, create a MCP button (I use OgreIRC personally), that ChangeCastStack each item with 'toggle'.
When you come to a mob that requires it, hit your button. It turns them on (and turns off any entry of the same ability that is on, which doesn't matter).

When you are done with that mob, press it again, it turns off the ones at the top, then turns on the same abilities it turned off above.
I personally have all of these in 1 MCP button so I can globally make all my toons max s/s/I with the click of a button.

and this is why ur the man!

 

[daffyduck]

Good news ... we've gotten to her in Sanctum.
Bad news ... in a regular (people) raid, we usually stun/interrupt the one healer add that comes at 75% with at least 2 coercers, kill the add that does the nasty aoe quickly, kill the next add, and then finally the healing one.
Not sure that's even the best strat, or how others would handle botting. Ogre raid notes state "Note: it is your responsible to take care of the stunning/messing/whatever you want to do with the adds at 75%".
So, anybody else successfully bot this encounter, and what did you do about the adds?
Funny thing is, pretty sure the last named will be easier than this one for our groups.
Appreciate strats and advice!

Mezzing works fine.

Can just have everyone assist the MT and play the chanter. Self target at 76/75 and then pop a mezz on the mob that needs it.