Bot Group Makeup
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mistrornge
Active Member
I have multiple groups but my usual make up is 2 healers, plate tank and 3 DPS.
paladin, fury, mystic, illusionist, troubadour and wizard
berzerker, defiler, templar, coercer, dirge and swashbuckler
guardian, defiler, inquisitor, monk, brigand and dirge
paladin, fury, mystic, illusionist, troubadour and wizard
berzerker, defiler, templar, coercer, dirge and swashbuckler
guardian, defiler, inquisitor, monk, brigand and dirge
Kannkor
Ogre
You don't have a real healer...
Ditch the Warden, and get a Warder (Mystic/defiler).
Ditch the Dirge and get a plate healer (Temp/Inq) (I recommend templar).
Then go to town with an unkillable group.
insanitywiz
Senior Member
I used to run with an
SK, Dirge, Illy, Wizzie, Warden, Mystic
I find myself often ditching the Mystic for a my Warlock now
You certainly don't need both Bard types, and really a Zerker is the bottom of the barrel when it comes to plate tanks right now, SK's and Pallies being on top. WAY on top.
And if you are using EQ2Bot out of the box, stick with the Dirge over the Troub, there are arguments for both but the eq2bot Dirge script is head and shoulders above the Troub script (unless things have changed in the last 6 months).
SK, Dirge, Illy, Wizzie, Warden, Mystic
I find myself often ditching the Mystic for a my Warlock now
You certainly don't need both Bard types, and really a Zerker is the bottom of the barrel when it comes to plate tanks right now, SK's and Pallies being on top. WAY on top.
And if you are using EQ2Bot out of the box, stick with the Dirge over the Troub, there are arguments for both but the eq2bot Dirge script is head and shoulders above the Troub script (unless things have changed in the last 6 months).
Nuprecon
Active Member
Why have a Dirge with a full caster group?
acct1 acct2 acct3 acct4 acct5 acct6
Troub Warden Paladin Dirge Mystic Warlock
Bruiser Templar Berzerker Assassin Coercer Necro
Monk Fury Guardian Wizard Conjurer Illusionist
Ranger Inquisitor SK Defiler Swash Brigand
Here is what i have to work with withou putting out money.
So here we go:
Troub Templar Paladin Defiler Coercer Warlock
Would that work better?
Troub Warden Paladin Dirge Mystic Warlock
Bruiser Templar Berzerker Assassin Coercer Necro
Monk Fury Guardian Wizard Conjurer Illusionist
Ranger Inquisitor SK Defiler Swash Brigand
Here is what i have to work with withou putting out money.
So here we go:
Troub Templar Paladin Defiler Coercer Warlock
Would that work better?
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insanitywiz
Senior Member
I have both on the account, I like the Dirge for the better avoidance buffs, and overall my DPS is better with the Dirge, as he does 3-5k depending on the zone and how I have the buffs, whereas the Troub does 1-2k at max.
insanitywiz
Senior Member
Thats a group anyone would be happy to instance with, so yes.
Most of my group is only level 69, but I am running with
SK, Defiler, Dirge, Coercer, Illusionist, Warlock.
I mow through everything so far, including orange named and yellow Epic X2 groups with no problem. I really don't see the need for a second healer with the defiler wards and the dirge defensive buffs.
I am looking forward to see how they do through Tier's 7-9.
SK, Defiler, Dirge, Coercer, Illusionist, Warlock.
I mow through everything so far, including orange named and yellow Epic X2 groups with no problem. I really don't see the need for a second healer with the defiler wards and the dirge defensive buffs.
I am looking forward to see how they do through Tier's 7-9.
Nuprecon
Active Member
Your dirge may out parse your troub, but how much better does the rest of the classes (including SK) do with Troub?
Right now I'm using:
Brigand, SK, Illy, Wizard, Templar and Dirge. I can honestly say I have no complaints with that group, they complement each other perfectly. Unfortunately I'm guessing the Wizzy script is beyond godawful, because he's outdamaged by every single other character including the Illy+Pet, and I went with a Wiz strictly for DPS. Next week I'm going to look into that, as I just added the Wiz+Illy (Both now level 80 with 120AA) two weeks ago. So based on that, the only one of the six I'd even consider recommending changing would be the Wiz.
Brigand, SK, Illy, Wizard, Templar and Dirge. I can honestly say I have no complaints with that group, they complement each other perfectly. Unfortunately I'm guessing the Wizzy script is beyond godawful, because he's outdamaged by every single other character including the Illy+Pet, and I went with a Wiz strictly for DPS. Next week I'm going to look into that, as I just added the Wiz+Illy (Both now level 80 with 120AA) two weeks ago. So based on that, the only one of the six I'd even consider recommending changing would be the Wiz.
Personally I play the Brigand. SK's have no trouble gaining aggro and maintaining it, so I don't have to worry on that regard. I frequently have the Illy's pet pull, or if it's in a difficult area I'll pull with the SK myself, then switch to the Brig. On pet pulls the SK has no trouble gaining aggro immediately. Bottom line, it's pretty much your personal preference, as it should be. I feel better being in control of the PC that has a majority of DPS come from attacking from behind consistently, but if the Illy or Templar were my primary characters I'd have no problem letting the script handle making sure to attack from behind.
I run my SK on my main desktop, my defiler on my laptop, and my 4 other toons on my quad core behind me. It works great. I use ISBoxer which make the management of the the 4 toons on one PC easily manageable.
I agree if I were using a dps scout, I might play it instead, but with my caster dps and dirge the bots do ok with the exception of the warlock, which seems to blow on dps unless it is a long encounter and there is time for encounter and pbaoes.
I agree if I were using a dps scout, I might play it instead, but with my caster dps and dirge the bots do ok with the exception of the warlock, which seems to blow on dps unless it is a long encounter and there is time for encounter and pbaoes.
insanitywiz
Senior Member
I find I do 3-4k more DPS overall with the dirge then the troub, and MUCH better durability. One is likely due to the other, so it may be the durability that the Dirge brings to the party that is the culprit.
HammerFour
Active Member
Wifey here.
I usually run an SK, dirge, illy, warden, mystic and brig if I need the extra healing power. Otherwise, I will drop the mystic and run an assassin. Does pretty well.
I usually run an SK, dirge, illy, warden, mystic and brig if I need the extra healing power. Otherwise, I will drop the mystic and run an assassin. Does pretty well.
Nuprecon
Active Member
I play the tank, but really only so I can force the target, and its better control over pulling in areas where you may need to body pull.
(SK, Troub, Temp, Coercer) Although, I'm not very happy with the temp right now. The temp might be turning into a fury before to long.
mistrornge
Active Member
Yeah the eq2bot temp bot was not very strong if i remember correctly.
I am running SK, Templar, Coercer, Illu, Warlock and Troubi at the moment. I haven't tried the harder zones yet and therefore haven't found a need for more healing yet. I'm planning to have either a warden or a mystic on the illu box to replace the illu for harder zones.
I currently don't see any need to replace a caster by scout dps. The casters allow me to range everything which comes in handy with some movement scripts and - otherwise - jousting requirements.
With an SK and mainly mage DPS, there is no way in hell that I would ever replace my troubi with a dirge.
I currently don't see any need to replace a caster by scout dps. The casters allow me to range everything which comes in handy with some movement scripts and - otherwise - jousting requirements.
With an SK and mainly mage DPS, there is no way in hell that I would ever replace my troubi with a dirge.
I am just coming back to the game after a year off. I am trying to set my group up again. I have the following accounts and characters. These all at level 80 with about 140aa and up.
Acct 1:
Sk, Guard, Bruiser
Acct 2:
Warden, Defiler, Inq
Acct 3:
Dirge, Coe
Acct 4:
Fury, Swash, Assassin
Acct 5:
Inquistor, Necro, Troub
Acct 6:
Illusionist, Conj
What will be my best makeup out of these characters for running level 90 instances and maybe level 80 raids.
Acct 1:
Sk, Guard, Bruiser
Acct 2:
Warden, Defiler, Inq
Acct 3:
Dirge, Coe
Acct 4:
Fury, Swash, Assassin
Acct 5:
Inquistor, Necro, Troub
Acct 6:
Illusionist, Conj
What will be my best makeup out of these characters for running level 90 instances and maybe level 80 raids.
