Dbg On Druder War Path

[Robboto]

Hi Everyone,

In the past 2 days ive seen two people have all of their accounts moved to Drunder. I dont know whether this is an isolated incident, they received no warning or emails explaining why but its clear why when all 6 accounts go at once.

1 person was a bad example, selling in channels, sharing parses ect.

The other however never sold in channels, never did contested zones and was generally very careful.
I doubt this person warranted a report from anyone which is my main concern.

Could be completely isolated incidents, but just a heads up it might be worth laying low for the time being.

 

[bjcasey]

All accounts is common, because they just ban by IP.

I'm not commenting on the rest, as I have no way of validating your claims that they weren't doing something stupid.

 

[Kannkor]

From information I've acquired... I have two things to say.
1) Everyone who was hit, was guilty. I don't care how much someone tries to make the claim about how careful or innocent they were, I call bullshit.
2) http://www.isxgames.com/f/threads/rules-of-fight-club-err-bot-club.5538/

From what I've been able to understand, every person hit was not following those rules. Now I realize those rules mean nothing to DBG, but I'd call most of them Botting common sense. You break them, and you are pissing off people.
Have people been pushing the limits of botting in the past year or two? Yes, even fuck yes. Guess what, it got pushed too far, and this is DBG pushing back. If you don't want to be hit, follow the rules.

I actually believe this needed to be done. Too many people don't care about the rules, and think they are untouchable.

 

[Lorgalis]

I actually believe this needed to be done. Too many people don't care about the rules, and think they are untouchable.

Couldn't agree more. Botting is SO flagrant on my server it's absurd. You will see Bot groups running through contested Kralet at any time of day, running through Maldura and open world zones, plain for all to see during all hours of the day. It's kinda wacky, lol. There is CLEAR bot raid SLR's as well.

 

[dtgreer]

What i see most of on my server is bot stacks outside of instances. i am very careful to port my group back to GH after every instance. very easy to tell the bot stacks. 6 toons all from the same guild (sometimes with variations of the same name) standing in one big stack.

 

[nobody1]

My 6 accounts were Drundered as well. I don't run contested zones, I park my flags nowhere near instance entrances and only move one toon there to zone in as soon as everyone is in zone. For the last 2 weeks I've only been doing raid trash here and there, no instances. Lastly, I never sold anything in channels.

 

[dtgreer]

Are there many people on Drunder?

 

[nobody1]

Empty, and none of my chars on 2 servers were copied over so my only choice was to make a new toon. Pretty stupid.

 

[dtgreer]

So they only copied one character per account and you lost the rest? That sucks

 

[lixleon]

My 6 accounts were Drundered as well. I don't run contested zones, I park my flags nowhere near instance entrances and only move one toon there to zone in as soon as everyone is in zone. For the last 2 weeks I've only been doing raid trash here and there, no instances. Lastly, I never sold anything in channels.

So you think they are starting detect people who are botting, and trying to send all botters into drunder?

 

[Kannkor]

My 6 accounts were Drundered as well. I don't run contested zones, I park my flags nowhere near instance entrances and only move one toon there to zone in as soon as everyone is in zone. For the last 2 weeks I've only been doing raid trash here and there, no instances. Lastly, I never sold anything in channels.

Put in an appeal - however I bet there's more to the story.

Empty, and none of my chars on 2 servers were copied over so my only choice was to make a new toon. Pretty stupid.

I suspect that is a bug and they would fix that, since it's suppose to copy your entire account. I'm sure an exception would be made if those toons were involved in some plat/item dupe.

 

[Gar]

Empty, and none of my chars on 2 servers were copied over so my only choice was to make a new toon. Pretty stupid.

From my understanding, you've gotta create a level 1 character for all your toons to show up.

 

[nobody1]

Put in an appeal - however I bet there's more to the story.

No honestly I haven't done much of anything recently except farming raid zone trash. No key quests which I see some people doing in bot groups, no contested zones, haven't sold anything in channels this whole expansion. I haven't even done instances in over a week, maybe two.

I don't see the point of an appeal, they kicked me while I was fighting trash. So they prob zoned in and were watching for a while. Oh well, the time to move on was long overdue anyway.

 

[nobody1]

So you think they are starting detect people who are botting, and trying to send all botters into drunder?

Possibly, I mean 6 people in a raid zone is pretty easy for a gm to spot. They're all anon so a player wouldn't know where my guys were. You don't see many raid trash run groups. And that was the only thing I did that day.

 

[lixleon]

Possibly, I mean 6 people in a raid zone is pretty easy for a gm to spot. They're all anon so a player wouldn't know where my guys were. You don't see many raid trash run groups. And that was the only thing I did that day.

Thats bad news, seems we are spotted by running raid zones.

 

[Eyedea]

I'm sure there is more to the story than what is being said, but the fact is we're all cheating and breaking the rules. I too agree its been far over due, but I also don't think two qualifies as a war path

 

[Kannkor]

No honestly I haven't done much of anything recently except farming raid zone trash. No key quests which I see some people doing in bot groups, no contested zones, haven't sold anything in channels this whole expansion. I haven't even done instances in over a week, maybe two.

I don't see the point of an appeal, they kicked me while I was fighting trash. So they prob zoned in and were watching for a while. Oh well, the time to move on was long overdue anyway.

I don't mean to be disrespectful, but I don't believe you were drundered for doing raid trash only.

Were you doing it afk? Were you exploiting?


My understanding is everyone who got his was done so for griefing or exploiting. Really unrelated to botting, other than most were botting while griefing.
If you enjoy this game, and you truly weren't doing anything wrong, I don't understand why you wouldn't put in an appeal. Now, if you were doing more, then putting in an appeal makes no sense.

Anyways, I feel like this is a situation of people pushed the limits and were caught, and people who continue to push the limits will also be drundered, but the mass majority of folks will not be touched.

 

[nobody1]

I don't mean to be disrespectful, but I don't believe you were drundered for doing raid trash only.

Sorry but I wasn't afk, I was running my group from trash mob to trash mob in a raid zone. I had no interaction with my group and any other players. I never sold anything, it was just for myself.

I wasn't doing anything wrong? I was botting 6 toons at once, I was controlling them when it happened. I was not AFK. First they kicked my tank. I thought it was just an LD. Soon as I relogged that account it opened to the Drunder char select screen. Then one by one every other toon dropped. I'm pretty sure a gm was watching me kill trash for a few minutes.

Put in an appeal and say, yes I was botting please forgive me?

Now granted, maybe someone reported me for something else weeks ago, and they just happened to catch my group online and in the act, but yes at the time I was doing nothing more than raid trash. I doubt I was reported though, I really don't use them that often since I've been bored with ToT. And when I did I tried my best to stay away from other people. It was over a week since I ran any zones with them. Did nothing else that entire day, no contested zones, no instances, nothing.

Sorry but I'm tired of people saying "there's more to the story" that I'm not telling. That's really all I was doing.

 

[lixleon]

Sorry but I wasn't afk, I was running my group from trash mob to trash mob in a raid zone. I had no interaction with my group and any other players. I never sold anything, it was just for myself.

I wasn't doing anything wrong? I was botting 6 toons at once, I was controlling them when it happened. I was not AFK. First they kicked my tank. I thought it was just an LD. Soon as I relogged that account it opened to the Drunder char select screen. Then one by one every other toon dropped. I'm pretty sure a gm was watching me kill trash for a few minutes.

Put in an appeal and say, yes I was botting please forgive me?

Now granted, maybe someone reported me for something else weeks ago, and they just happened to catch my group online and in the act, but yes at the time I was doing nothing more than raid trash. I doubt I was reported though, I really don't use them that often since I've been bored with ToT. And when I did I tried my best to stay away from other people. It was over a week since I ran any zones with them. Did nothing else that entire day, no contested zones, no instances, nothing.

Sorry but I'm tired of people saying "there's more to the story" that I'm not telling. That's really all I was doing.

If this is story, as I know there are bunch of people doing things more danger than you, but they are still around.

 

[Kannkor]

Sorry but I wasn't afk, I was running my group from trash mob to trash mob in a raid zone. I had no interaction with my group and any other players. I never sold anything, it was just for myself.

I wasn't doing anything wrong? I was botting 6 toons at once, I was controlling them when it happened. I was not AFK. First they kicked my tank. I thought it was just an LD. Soon as I relogged that account it opened to the Drunder char select screen. Then one by one every other toon dropped. I'm pretty sure a gm was watching me kill trash for a few minutes.

Put in an appeal and say, yes I was botting please forgive me?

Now granted, maybe someone reported me for something else weeks ago, and they just happened to catch my group online and in the act, but yes at the time I was doing nothing more than raid trash. I doubt I was reported though, I really don't use them that often since I've been bored with ToT. And when I did I tried my best to stay away from other people. It was over a week since I ran any zones with them. Did nothing else that entire day, no contested zones, no instances, nothing.

Sorry but I'm tired of people saying "there's more to the story" that I'm not telling. That's really all I was doing.

I'd put in an appeal. If all you were doing was botting, that's not what they are sending people to drunder for.
Just put in the appeal you don't understand why you were sent and they will give you more information, or they should have already sent out an email with the details.

 

[Multicharacter]

They actually got me a couple of months ago. Hadn't so much as seen a GM in years and suddenly couldn't log in. I came here, didn't see any posts from anybody else, so I just shrugged it off as 'who knows what got me caught, but it isn't hitting everybody else or there would be posts about it, so...' I used all my own custom stuff, but didn't do any pure exploits (eg no warping, no duping, or the like). There was some AFK involved, but I strictly limited play time (was not keeping an account logged in 24/7 in other words). Didn't SLR, didn't do contested, only instances. I actually tried to appeal it (didn't expect to get my accounts back - but hoped for a hint of what they were taking issue with. In the past, years and years ago when I got caught, GM Kimbiala actually said exactly what they took issue with), but the reply didn't even have a GM's signature - it just said 'This account has been banned for 3rd party program usage. It will not be reopened.'

I assumed it was something in my custom stuff, so when I came back I decided to just try other extension like Ogre/BJ and ISXRI rather than using my own written scripts. I know that previously, years and years ago, what got me was using the /split command. Why they have it in game, yet take issue with using it, I didn't know, but I would split the coin loot from my characters after the tank went to sell vendor trash. After getting caught I created new accounts, and promptly was banned again. Then I created new ones and did different things on them, and consistently the ones that just did /split commands were banned. I got rid of all use of /split, and went years until just recently without issue. That's why I thought MAYBE they were taking issue with something my custom stuff does again and I went to using Ogre instead. Sounds like it wasn't any of my custom stuff though if you guys are being affected too. I know that in my case however they determined '3rd party program usage' was from logs - it was a patch day, and I couldn't have even loaded ISXEQ2 if I had wanted to, on the day they banned me (it wasn't observation based).

 

[Solenoid]

So your accounts were banned not sent to Drunder? That seems unrelated to botting.

i wouldn't object to Drunder and in many ways would be happy to move there if it was not empty as previously mentioned. Would be kinda nice to bot in the open etc.

I wonder if could connect to other server chat so have some semblance of a population while on Drunder. My guess is that you cant because they send some people there for being a nuisance.

 

[Multicharacter]

Yeah, banned, not sent to Drunder. The only third party program I was using was Innerspace/ISXEQ2 (at the time I hadn't even touched ISXOgre or BJ or any other extensions). I figured it was either crash reports, or increased server population (I tried to stay out of the public light as much as possible, but occasionally you would have things happen like unexpected, unannounced, server downtimes that suddenly eject your guys out of instances and into the original host zones.) I had a problem that would develop on some characters seemingly at random - they would crash while zoning, and then continually crash if I tried to log into them while ISXEQ2 was loaded. The fix was to unload ISXEQ2, log into the character, strip all buffs/spells (just change AAs then change them back) and then I could log in on that character again with ISXEQ2 loaded. Whatever it was - it was something the server was sending down that caused a crash, but only when ISXEQ2 was loaded (it wasn't computer specific). If it was sending crash reports during those crashes then that would show ISXEQ2.dll was loaded I believe.

 

[lixleon]

I have seen two group got banned/suspend in past week cuz afk botting also.

 

[ownagejoo]

I am betting most of them were partaking of the exploit

 

[lixleon]

Nop, I know they are using script to run zones automatically, its getting dangerous using those kind of script.

 

[bjcasey]

Nop, I know they are using script to run zones automatically, its getting dangerous using those kind of script.

It was always dangerous to do anything AFK. As long as you are near the computer to answer any tells a GM might send you within a reasonable amount of time and are not running zones 24/7 you should have nothing to worry about with respect to ban risk and automation of zones.

 

[lixleon]

It was always dangerous to do anything AFK. As long as you are near the computer to answer any tells a GM might send you within a reasonable amount of time and are not running zones 24/7 you should have nothing to worry about with respect to ban risk and automation of zones.

The guy got banned check all of his log, there was no tells no says no any interactions. just got kicked and suspended.

 

[lixleon]

I know there are mass ban/suspend/drunder action through all game of DBG this days, just want to remind everyone be careful on anything.

 

[bjcasey]

The guy got banned check all of his log, there was no tells no says no any interactions. just got kicked and suspended.

You were saying that afk automated zone scripts weren't safe. I was point out that AFK anything has never been safe. Be at the computer and not running those scripts 24/7 and you'll be fine.

It's beginning to look like (on the official forums) there was a merchant dupe going on that people are trying to pretend they didn't use and were wrongly punished for.

 

[crunked]

FYI
Was suspended for 3 days yesterday for AFK/Un-attended play (6 accounts), while doing the last named in maldura x2, with a friend. No GM tell/visit during my 3 hour online period yesterday.

My other accounts are okay.

Have not used BJ or RI.

/end

 

[Multicharacter]

You were saying that afk automated zone scripts weren't safe. I was point out that AFK anything has never been safe. Be at the computer and not running those scripts 24/7 and you'll be fine.

It's beginning to look like (on the official forums) there was a merchant dupe going on that people are trying to pretend they didn't use and were wrongly punished for.

I suspected a dupe starting months and months ago when Kronos suddenly skyrocketed. Guess I was right, but not in a way I would have expected at all. I thought items were set at X price, and all merchants pulled from that with certain vendors just having modifiers (like the old grateful merchants from Thundering Steppes) - I'm assuming since people are talking about it now, that it's been fixed, and if so, just out of curiosity, what merchant and item was it? Crafting? Or some really out of the way NPC? How long has the merchant been in game?

As far as my ban goes - like I said, I did AFK, I admit it, didn't fight it after they said '3rd party program usage' in my appeal either (and only appealed hoping to be told something more specific in terms of what they had a problem with), but I'm inclined to believe the others when they say they received no tells. Heck, I wasn't even botting the day it happened (couldn't - patch day). Typically in the past, years and years ago, when I got caught GMs would send tells, they would summon your guys and watch them run into a wall, etc. Then there would be a delay of a few hours while they rounded up all of your suspected accounts (but they didn't used to use IP, because I'd have accounts left behind that shared the same IP). Now they don't seem to be doing the old 'send a tell, and summon a guy' anymore, and they absolutely are banning by IP now (accounts that haven't interacted with each other at all are affected).

 

[lixleon]

I suspected a dupe starting months and months ago when Kronos suddenly skyrocketed. Guess I was right, but not in a way I would have expected at all. I thought items were set at X price, and all merchants pulled from that with certain vendors just having modifiers (like the old grateful merchants from Thundering Steppes) - I'm assuming since people are talking about it now, that it's been fixed, and if so, just out of curiosity, what merchant and item was it? Crafting? Or some really out of the way NPC? How long has the merchant been in game?

As far as my ban goes - like I said, I did AFK, I admit it, didn't fight it after they said '3rd party program usage' in my appeal either (and only appealed hoping to be told something more specific in terms of what they had a problem with), but I'm inclined to believe the others when they say they received no tells. Heck, I wasn't even botting the day it happened (couldn't - patch day). Typically in the past, years and years ago, when I got caught GMs would send tells, they would summon your guys and watch them run into a wall, etc. Then there would be a delay of a few hours while they rounded up all of your suspected accounts (but they didn't used to use IP, because I'd have accounts left behind that shared the same IP). Now they don't seem to be doing the old 'send a tell, and summon a guy' anymore, and they absolutely are banning by IP now (accounts that haven't interacted with each other at all are affected).

Obsolutely, I thought they are already decided to take some action on those botters already reported by someone for long ago. I got to guess the reason my friend banned is casting out of combat even in content, public city or entance of instance. your group keep casting and stack, you got the chance to get reported.

 

[Solenoid]

I suspected a dupe starting months and months ago when Kronos suddenly skyrocketed. Guess I was right, but not in a way I would have expected at all. I thought items were set at X price, and all merchants pulled from that with certain vendors just having modifiers (like the old grateful merchants from Thundering Steppes) - I'm assuming since people are talking about it now, that it's been fixed, and if so, just out of curiosity, what merchant and item was it? Crafting? Or some really out of the way NPC? How long has the merchant been in game?

As far as my ban goes - like I said, I did AFK, I admit it, didn't fight it after they said '3rd party program usage' in my appeal either (and only appealed hoping to be told something more specific in terms of what they had a problem with), but I'm inclined to believe the others when they say they received no tells. Heck, I wasn't even botting the day it happened (couldn't - patch day). Typically in the past, years and years ago, when I got caught GMs would send tells, they would summon your guys and watch them run into a wall, etc. Then there would be a delay of a few hours while they rounded up all of your suspected accounts (but they didn't used to use IP, because I'd have accounts left behind that shared the same IP). Now they don't seem to be doing the old 'send a tell, and summon a guy' anymore, and they absolutely are banning by IP now (accounts that haven't interacted with each other at all are affected).

The 'dupe' was out since ToT launch. It involved buying the 'Adornment Reclamation' scroll for 1 cp and selling it to another vendor for 10p. I don't know which vendors but that is the crux of what happened.

 

[Multicharacter]

The 'dupe' was out since ToT launch. It involved buying the 'Adornment Reclamation' scroll for 1 cp and selling it to another vendor for 10p. I don't know which vendors but that is the crux of what happened.

Woah, if that's the item then the bug has been in game since AoM launched right? So much for there 'in the event of a dupe we have alarms and bells that go off'.

 

[Solenoid]

No, i believe it was introduced with ToT and moving the Adornment Reclamation spell to the class trainers.

 

[Kannkor]

Woah, if that's the item then the bug has been in game since AoM launched right? So much for there 'in the event of a dupe we have alarms and bells that go off'.

In since ToT, not AoM, because you couldn't BUY it from a merchant until ToT.

It's also not a dupe, and arguably not an exploit.. Depends how you define exploit.

Was it something unintended? Absolutely.

The reason why it wouldn't have flagged any alarm bells, was everything people were doing was completely valid that people would do thousands of times per day normally. (Buying and selling from merchants). The plat wasn't being duped, it was being generated from an NPC and handed out, and it was working properly.

The problem was the item was marked with two values. A 1cp value from merchant1, and 10pp value from merchant2.
I'm not really interested in a discussion here on who was at fault, the player for using it, or the developers for specifically marking items like that.

I guess let this be a lesson, if you can turn 10000000% profit (yes, 1 million percent - literally that many zeroes... 1cp -> 10 cp -> 1 sp -> 10sp -> 1gp -> 10gp -> 1pp -> 10pp) that is repeatable with almost no effort, it may not be wise to do it.

 

[wendys]

Well I can tell you that DBG is actively looking for people using 3rd party programs. I havent used anything for about a week but decided today to do the x2 real quick. I got to the last name and when the adds spawned like 3 or 4 sets came at once so I tried it again and same thing happened. I immediately logged out and logged on my main account and I got a 3 day suspension a few minutes later.

 

[Kannkor]

Well I can tell you that DBG is actively looking for people using 3rd party programs. I havent used anything for about a week but decided today to do the x2 real quick. I got to the last name and when the adds spawned like 3 or 4 sets came at once so I tried it again and same thing happened. I immediately logged out and logged on my main account and I got a 3 day suspension a few minutes later.

You can't really make that claim they are actively looking for people using 3rd party programs... If they now just started churning through logs to find people who have done other things, it can be unrelated to what you were actually doing today/"now".

If they wanted to nail every single person using 3rd party programs, they could do so already in 1 swoop. I suspect every person who got hit has done something. Whether on purpose (such as the plat thing), or by being naive (such as infinite range pulling).
Time will tell, but I don't personally believe any of this is for "botting". It's for doing something way worse.

 

[wendys]

It could be they are just watching the x2 or just the last name in the x2 zone. I just thought I'd give people a heads up,if you plan on doing the x2 zone maybe wait for off hours as they might not have GM's on at that time. I never slr in channel and I did not participate in the plat exploit. I only run heroic zones to gear up my own group and I haven't even been doing that lately because there is nothing I need. I hope that I was just an isolated incident best of luck.

 

[Isnewbie]

The people I know who got suspended this last week are all guilty of something. Plat dupe exploitation, range pulling, sitting in contested afk all day locking out contested 1.

 

[lixleon]

DBG are taking action on Raid zones... i am affraid heroic maybe next one?

 

[mattb]

I got 3 accounts suspended for 3 days for the plat "exploit".

I only did a couple of runs on those 3 accounts, as I got bored of doing it for 2.8kpp a run (couldn't be bothered to make it more efficient than 6 bearhide packs).

I've not been caught for botting, and still playing with my other 3 toons until the suspension finishes in a day or so.

But a friend of mine has just got suspended today for botting I think. He was in contested a lot but usually in his own instance (v2 or 3) to make sure it's quiet.

 

[Kannkor]

I'm curious... I've heard some people clearly say, and others suggest or hint, they aren't interested in playing on Drunder. As a botter.. why does this matter?
I'm not Drundered (yet?)... but I don't think it would change my gaming at all. I'd still do exactly what I was doing prior... but with less care/worry.

Unless I'm mistaken.. the only thing you can't do on Drunder, is chat with people on a different server.

 

[Kannkor]

The people I know who got suspended this last week are all guilty of something. Plat dupe exploitation, range pulling, sitting in contested afk all day locking out contested 1.

^^^^ This.
Everyone I've talked too has also been guilty of something. It may not have been on the same day they were suspended or drundered, but they all within the last few weeks, did something more than just botting.

It feels like they are going through a big list of petitions, and investigating each one. While they likely know all these people are guilty, they are checking each one out to confirm you are botting. When they confirm it, you get drundered.

Oddly enough, I did the x2 today, and nothing. About an hour later, someone else does the x2, and gets suspended or drundered (I don't recall which one now). Then a few hours later, someone else gets hit at a raid. These aren't being done in 'big waves'. Individual people are being targetted. The why? Somewhat unknown... but they all seemed to share commonalities. They didn't follow the Bot club rules. And most of them had spent some time in contested zones. Sure, it wasn't on the day they got hit, but it's not about what you did on the day you got hit.

Anyways, it is appreciated all the information people are posting here, as it helps us learn what is going on.

 

[Isnewbie]

Found out another person that got suspended, also someone who had camp contested heavily. People need to realize that if you go into other contested instances other than one, the zone in is going to be unavailable until that group gets out of contested 2 or 3. So if that groups sits in there for days, and no one else can log in to open contest 1 and people can't get in for days, you bet massive amount of people going to petition that the instance isn't working. When DBG decides to follow up on the petition, you bet they're going to go through the logs to see who's been in there and what they're doing. So once you log on, they're going to gun for your ass.

 

[lixleon]

I'm curious... I've heard some people clearly say, and others suggest or hint, they aren't interested in playing on Drunder. As a botter.. why does this matter?
I'm not Drundered (yet?)... but I don't think it would change my gaming at all. I'd still do exactly what I was doing prior... but with less care/worry.

Unless I'm mistaken.. the only thing you can't do on Drunder, is chat with people on a different server.

And have to keep subscribe from credit card, there is no krono for sale and no ftp account allowed.

 

[Tantroth]

And have to keep subscribe from credit card, there is no krono for sale and no ftp account allowed.

Incorrect. http://eq2wire.com/2015/09/29/server-downtime-tues-sept-29-7am-pdt-drunder-is-now-f2p/

 

[Solenoid]

I'm curious... I've heard some people clearly say, and others suggest or hint, they aren't interested in playing on Drunder. As a botter.. why does this matter?
I'm not Drundered (yet?)... but I don't think it would change my gaming at all. I'd still do exactly what I was doing prior... but with less care/worry.

Unless I'm mistaken.. the only thing you can't do on Drunder, is chat with people on a different server.

I actually would move to Drunder today if it wasnt so empty. Maybe it is not now with the group of people sent there. It would allow me to openly do stuff that i wouldn't dare do now, like contested. Bot in the open etc.

It is FTP etc. so no downside that I am aware of except the lack of people.

 

[lixleon]

Incorrect. http://eq2wire.com/2015/09/29/server-downtime-tues-sept-29-7am-pdt-drunder-is-now-f2p/

wow, thanks the info, so there is no worries about playing in drunder.

 

[mattb]

Found out another person that got suspended, also someone who had camp contested heavily. People need to realize that if you go into other contested instances other than one, the zone in is going to be unavailable until that group gets out of contested 2 or 3. So if that groups sits in there for days, and no one else can log in to open contest 1 and people can't get in for days, you bet massive amount of people going to petition that the instance isn't working. When DBG decides to follow up on the petition, you bet they're going to go through the logs to see who's been in there and what they're doing. So once you log on, they're going to gun for your ass.

That's not true. If you're in contested2, and there's less than 24 people in contested1,then only contested1 is available to zone into. Basically each instance holds 24 before the option of zoning into another instance comes up. You only prevent people zoning into contested2 if there's not enough people in contested1. Contested1 is always available.

 

[nobody1]

Well normally there's 1 or 2 people on Drunder, right now there's 40...

 

[Solenoid]

Maybe all the bot armies should move there and go wild.

By the way, did all of your toons get transferred?

 

[Isnewbie]

I think you're misinterpreting what I am trying to say.

If there are 20+ people in contested 1, it'll open up contested 2. If said bot teams decides to stay in contested 2 and contested 1 becomes empty, the. Contested 2 won't show up on the zone in list, along with contested 1. This was a bug that has happened during ToV with HKC. The devs implemented a fix to circumvent this bug. Now obviously it has reappeared. If you try to zone into contested late at night, often time you'll see that the zone into contested isn't available.

There was a post on the forums regarding this and I believe it garnered some attention. Plus the bug is easily reproduceable if you have your own teams to open up another instance.

That's not true. If you're in contested2, and there's less than 24 people in contested1,then only contested1 is available to zone into. Basically each instance holds 24 before the option of zoning into another instance comes up. You only prevent people zoning into contested2 if there's not enough people in contested1. Contested1 is always available.

 

[scolsis]

It looks as though those who have been sent to Drunder are making the most of it.

https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq2/index.php?threads/for-those-on-drunder.567497/

https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq2/index.php?threads/drunder-players-have-no-fear.567524/

 

[nobody1]

Maybe all the bot armies should move there and go wild.

By the way, did all of your toons get transferred?

None of my characters appeared yet on any of the 6 accounts. I've created and deleted new toons like they say but nothing yet.
My first petition they closed without even replying, my second all they said was The transfer to Drunder was permanent.
Asked about my chars, no response. It's time to move on anyway, been playing Skyforge and Blade & Soul.

Although I can still play EQ1 and DCUO on that main account lol.

Oh and the email I received said "Cheating in Everquest II"
And I never did any of the plat dupe or whatever on any of the toons, didn't even know about it till it was posted here actually.

My guess going forward, 6 toons in a Raid Zone is a red flag now.

Then again, it's pretty easy to spot the bot groups on any server, just /who all and look for the 6 anon guys listed next to each other with names like Tankman, Healerguy, DPSdude, MoarDeeps, Healergirl, Utilityman...

 

[Kannkor]

Oh and the email I received said "Cheating in Everquest II"
And I never did any of the plat dupe or whatever on any of the toons, didn't even know about it till it was posted here actually.

Cheating is a broad term... you were botting, and that falls into "cheating".

My guess going forward, 6 toons in a Raid Zone is a red flag now.

I would say not.
Since people have reported their suspensions/drunders, I have ran 5 raid zones. Three of them were with my own 12 toons, and the other two were with 24 botted toons.

I still stand by my it's unrelated to JUST botting.

This isn't directed at anyone, but if you've EVER botted in a contested zone, in ToT, you may be on their list to check. It feels like GMs have a list of people, and they are checking them out. Every single person that got reported at all for botting, they are investigating. If you are botting, you're going to drunder. It doesn't matter what you are doing "right now".

There is a reason why over and over, people like Amadeus and myself have said a million times, to not bot in contested zones, or do things that effects real players. YOU will, eventually, be punished.

 

[Amadeus]

It looks as though those who have been sent to Drunder are making the most of it.

I'm thinking that when I get some free time I'll add code to ISXEQ2 to remove all restrictions on Drunder and perhaps even enable some speed/warp hacks, etc.

 

[mattb]

Well I'm back from my plat exploit 3 day suspension. Still kept the money (which wasn't much), still not drundered.

 

[Solenoid]

It looks as though those who have been sent to Drunder are making the most of it.

https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq2/index.php?threads/for-those-on-drunder.567497/

https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq2/index.php?threads/drunder-players-have-no-fear.567524/

I have been seriously debating voluntarily transferring over the Drunder. would nice to finally be free of worry/restrictions.

 

[ikeyfoxx]

I have been seriously debating voluntarily transferring over the Drunder. would nice to finally be free of worry/restrictions.

I'm considering the same thing, since I recently found out it was FTP.

 

[Solenoid]

I have decided to run up a new group and transfer it over to Drunder. That is almost done and ready to move.

I didnt want to move my mains in case i didnt like it

 

[mattb]

I'll answer it then. Maybe it has gotten around, but if you are botting, (not boxing), cheating or using 3rd party programs to manipulate content. We've been going after you. We have sent many people caught doing this to Drunder over the last few weeks. We will continue to look for you. You will be Drunder bound or banned. We've already sent over 200 accounts to Drunder over the last 6 weeks. More to come.

https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq...-candor-whats-going-on-with-tle.568321/page-3

 

[Kannkor]

https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq...-candor-whats-going-on-with-tle.568321/page-3

As of right now, still not worried.
99.9% of all accounts they sent over, were for doing something obvious.
Contested zones was the first round.
RMT'ing (selling plat for real $$$) was the second round.

People SLRing may or may not be being hit, but that's putting you in the public eye...

Follow the rules, keep to yourself, and I suspect all will continue to be fine.

 

[Eyedea]

I have decided to run up a new group and transfer it over to Drunder. That is almost done and ready to move.

I didnt want to move my mains in case i didnt like it

Did you actually go through with this? How is Drunder?

 

[Solenoid]

Did you actually go through with this? How is Drunder?

I did transfer the group. The place is dead but it is nice b/c can bot in the open etc. The ONLY thing i miss is general chat but other then that it is great.

 

[Amadeus]

I wonder how difficult it would be for me to add a 'chat channel' to isxeq2 that would work on drunder and allow everyone using isxeq2 to talk to one another in the chat window.....hmmmm

 

[North101]

That would be awesome tbh.

 

[Solenoid]

Agreed. That would be awesome. To give you an idea my group generally has the entire server to itself. That is how dead it is.

Amadeus - Were you looking for someone on Drunder to help gather data?

 

[Thefallen]

I too agree this would be great. Nice to be able to help each other out and chat.