No Actors for doors in Temple of Veeshan?

mistahmikey

Active Member
Am unable to get the usual methods of auto-clicking doors to work. When I use radar or the ISXEQ2 Actor TLO, I am unable to see or retrieve an Actor for the door. Does this imply there is a new object type that needs to be added to ISXEQ2? Or am I missing something?
 

Amadeus

The Maestro
Staff member
Did you try the 'where' command to see if anything shows up? Stand right on top of it and it should be first on the list since I believe the default is to sort by distance. You might also try 'where unknown'.
 

mistahmikey

Active Member
Used the where command as suggested, but no soap - nothing appears for the door. "Where unknown" returns 0 [unknowns]. So it appears to be something new. The door highlights when I place the mouse cursor over it.
 

Amadeus

The Maestro
Staff member
It may just be something completely different that I haven't yet mapped out. However, there is one last possibility: go and download http://updates.isxgames.com/isxeq2/test/ISXEQ2.dll. Place it in your /innerspace/Extensions folder overwriting the one that is there (you'll need to do it when ISXEQ2 is not loaded.) Then, when you're close to that door, try the 'where' command and let me know if you get any messages in the console that look like: "Unknown ActorType Encountered: [0x%x::0x%x]" ...and tell me what those messages are exactly.
 

mistahmikey

Active Member
The following is the output from the command you requested me to run as it appears in the EQ2 chat log:

Code:
(1387853169)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:09 2013] You have entered Temple of Veeshan: Vulak'Aerr's Dominion [Heroic].
(1387853169)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:09 2013] This instance will expire in 2 days 16 hours.
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [Special Entity] Flamable Barrels of Ether (Distance 600.76 - Heading 173.39 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [Special Entity] Flamable Barrels of Ether (Distance 602.93 - Heading 185.93 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [Special Entity] Flamable Barrels of Ether (Distance 833.19 - Heading 188.91 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [Special Entity] Flamable Barrels of Ether (Distance 909.42 - Heading 177.58 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [Special Entity] Flamable Barrels of Ether (Distance 740.57 - Heading 170.13 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [ 0 Barbarian commoner]  (Distance 357.69 - Heading 359.16 N)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [ 0 Barbarian commoner]  (Distance 358.65 - Heading 359.16 N)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [ 0 Barbarian commoner]  (Distance 357.69 - Heading 359.16 N)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [ 0 Barbarian commoner]  (Distance 358.65 - Heading 359.16 N)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [ 0 Barbarian commoner]  (Distance 357.93 - Heading 359.16 N)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [ 0 Barbarian commoner]  (Distance 357.93 - Heading 359.16 N)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [ 0 Barbarian commoner]  (Distance 357.69 - Heading 359.16 N)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [ 0 Barbarian commoner]  (Distance 358.65 - Heading 359.16 N)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [Special Entity] goo_cube (Distance 571.25 - Heading 155.51 SSE)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [Special Entity] goo_cube (Distance 507.86 - Heading 202.01 SSW)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [Special Entity] goo_cube (Distance 760.40 - Heading 179.54 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [Special Entity]  (Distance 1912.02 - Heading 179.90 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [95 Barbarian monk] NooneYouKnow (Distance 0.00 - Heading 180.00 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [101 NPC wizard] a draconic energy spark (Distance 773.90 - Heading 176.85 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [101 NPC wizard] a draconic energy spark (Distance 782.30 - Heading 176.20 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [101 NPC wizard] a draconic energy spark (Distance 794.73 - Heading 179.63 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [101 NPC wizard] a draconic energy spark (Distance 760.16 - Heading 181.76 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [101 NPC wizard] a draconic energy spark (Distance 773.88 - Heading 181.47 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [101 NPC wizard] a draconic energy spark (Distance 714.68 - Heading 182.72 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [101 NPC wizard] a draconic energy spark (Distance 735.57 - Heading 177.08 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [101 NPC wizard] a draconic energy spark (Distance 750.01 - Heading 174.10 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [101 NPC wizard] a draconic energy spark (Distance 790.29 - Heading 179.69 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [101 NPC wizard] a draconic energy spark (Distance 775.20 - Heading 175.98 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [101 NPC wizard] a draconic energy spark (Distance 765.80 - Heading 178.08 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [102 NPC shadowknight] a draconic defender (Distance 2327.55 - Heading 186.42 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [102 NPC shadowknight] a draconic defender (Distance 2292.75 - Heading 188.24 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [102 NPC shadowknight] a draconic defender (Distance 1391.06 - Heading 164.88 SSE)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [102 NPC shadowknight] a draconic defender (Distance 2195.30 - Heading 172.61 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [102 NPC shadowknight] a draconic defender (Distance 2205.70 - Heading 172.57 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [102 NPC shadowknight] a draconic defender (Distance 1328.92 - Heading 161.12 SSE)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [102 NPC shadowknight] a draconic defender (Distance 1557.65 - Heading 191.77 SSW)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [102 NPC shadowknight] a draconic defender (Distance 1324.63 - Heading 198.70 SSW)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [102 NPC shadowknight] a draconic defender (Distance 3211.02 - Heading 180.29 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [102 NPC shadowknight] a draconic defender (Distance 1394.12 - Heading 194.74 SSW)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [103 NPC berserker] an aerakyn Felguard (Distance 2226.26 - Heading 167.91 SSE)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [103 NPC berserker] an aerakyn Felguard (Distance 569.79 - Heading 178.96 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [103 NPC berserker] an aerakyn Felguard (Distance 2270.68 - Heading 168.14 SSE)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [103 NPC berserker] an aerakyn Felguard (Distance 2728.59 - Heading 171.21 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [103 NPC berserker] an aerakyn Felguard (Distance 2769.76 - Heading 172.09 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [103 NPC berserker] an aerakyn Felguard (Distance 660.70 - Heading 158.84 SSE)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [103 NPC berserker] an aerakyn Felguard (Distance 650.88 - Heading 162.27 SSE)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [103 NPC berserker] an aerakyn Felguard (Distance 570.20 - Heading 197.48 SSW)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [103 NPC guardian] Vulak'Aerr (Distance 1322.32 - Heading 180.54 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [103 NPC guardian] a stoneback pounder (Distance 2535.34 - Heading 183.36 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [103 NPC berserker] an aerakyn Felguard (Distance 3204.80 - Heading 179.44 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [103 NPC berserker] an aerakyn Felguard (Distance 3217.63 - Heading 179.70 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [103 NPC berserker] an aerakyn Felguard (Distance 3040.03 - Heading 180.33 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [103 NPC berserker] an aerakyn Felguard (Distance 3027.39 - Heading 180.61 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [103 NPC shadowknight] a draconic defender (Distance 2581.89 - Heading 160.74 SSE)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [103 NPC shadowknight] a draconic defender (Distance 2574.07 - Heading 163.14 SSE)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [103 NPC guardian] a stoneback pounder (Distance 2577.03 - Heading 177.45 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [103 NPC guardian] a sweeping behemoth (Distance 2071.86 - Heading 190.66 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [103 NPC shadowknight] a draconic defender (Distance 1923.67 - Heading 189.97 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [103 NPC shadowknight] a draconic defender (Distance 1823.50 - Heading 194.11 SSW)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [103 NPC berserker] an aerakyn Felguard (Distance 569.95 - Heading 180.92 S)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [103 NPC berserker] an etherflame muddite (Distance 305.03 - Heading 202.98 SSW)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [103 NPC berserker] an etherflame muddite (Distance 310.85 - Heading 155.88 SSE)
(1387853213)[Mon Dec 23 21:46:53 2013] [103 NPC berserker] an aerakyn Felguard (Distance 586.55 - Heading 201.16 SSW)
FYI, when I checked the version info for the DLL you asked me to download, it did not appear to be different than the most current version. The output to ISXEQ2_Debug.txt is:

"EverQuest 2" extension for Inner Space, tISXEQ2 v20131217.0003x, is now ready for use.

There is an unnamed "Special Entity" that appears just before my character (renamed to NooneYouKnow to protect the guilty), but its distance from me is pretty large.

Let me know if I can get you any additional info.
 

uiyice

Active Member
I can duplicate mistahmikey's lack of success.

The same thing is also true for the entrance to Wurmbone's End in JW. ISXEQ2 just doesn't seem to see it as anything, not even an unknown.
 

Amadeus

The Maestro
Staff member
It's probably then something completely new and different -- and, it may be very difficult for me to figure out (or it might be easy.)

Can anyone think of anything similar that would be at a location where one of my characters could enter? I can't remember what level my highest character is, but I'm almost positive it's 80 or less.
 

Multicharacter

Senior Member
It's probably then something completely new and different -- and, it may be very difficult for me to figure out (or it might be easy.)

Can anyone think of anything similar that would be at a location where one of my characters could enter? I can't remember what level my highest character is, but I'm almost positive it's 80 or less.
I know this thread is starting to get a little old, but I recall a long time ago (this might be changed now that they integrated all the Qeynos zones) I was trying to find a way to apply_verb on the door to the guild hall in North Qeynos. I ran around with radar, did numerous where's, and found no actors that I could apply_verb to the way I wanted.
 

Kannkor

Ogre
Can someone give me an exact example of where this is happening? IE: Give me a zone name and a /loc, or some general way of finding it. I have a few tricks for finding things like this.

The same thing is also true for the entrance to Wurmbone's End in JW. ISXEQ2 just doesn't seem to see it as anything, not even an unknown.
It is a "NoKill NPC" and works "fine" ish. The only part that doesn't work, and unknown to me if it's EQ2 or ISXEQ2, many many "doors"/Zone objects do not appear where you think they would be.

For example, many of them appear at location 0,0,0. I'm unaware of if they are actually at 0,0,0, but visually appear there, or if ISXEQ2 just can't read the location, so it reports as 0.
I'm inclined to believe it's ISXEQ2, because the distance to click these objects still exists (IE: can only click when 10m or less from them in game).

Amadeus, if you want to see an example do the following:
Use a bell and go to: Jarsath Wastes
Turn around and there is an NPC: Brind
Hail him, then select the second option: "Actually, just send me to Wurmbone Cleft"
Then select the first option: "Thank you!"
Then go into the cave and it's the door on the left.
Here is the /loc: /waypoint -1202.099487,125.449883,2019.238281

There are no NPCs around here, so any level of character should be good to try it.
For ease if you want the ID: ${Actor[nokillnpc].ID}
 

uiyice

Active Member
It is a "NoKill NPC" and works "fine" ish. The only part that doesn't work, and unknown to me if it's EQ2 or ISXEQ2, many many "doors"/Zone objects do not appear where you think they would be.
Oh look at that, Kannkor is of course correct. Exit Doors found in ToV:VD at 0.0,5.5,0.0 and 0.0,-10.7,0.0 - and they do work fine once you get your hands on the right one (There are multiple nokill npcs that make up the door assembly, only 2 are the active doors). When standing on the door, my loc is -6.578516 19.144529 357.100891.
 
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