OgreBot Auto Attack

[blackee]

Kannkor,

I am having a new issue. I just upgraded to V15 last night and this is my first night raiding on my dirge. Therefore, I am unsure if it is V15 based or GU61.

Issue: During fights, while I am melee-ing and casting, he'll stop Auto Attacking. I am using the default dirge sample.

Edit: looks like it is casting shroud before scream of death (stealth attack) is ready...so it is waiting for it

 

[Kannkor]

Kannkor,

I am having a new issue. I just upgraded to V15 last night and this is my first night raiding on my dirge. Therefore, I am unsure if it is V15 based or GU61.

Issue: During fights, while I am melee-ing and casting, he'll stop Auto Attacking. I am using the default dirge sample.

Edit: looks like it is casting shroud before scream of death (stealth attack) is ready...so it is waiting for it

Ama just posted a fix for a bunch of little bugs. Once you reload isxeq2, let me know if it's still happening.

 

[blackee]

BTW, the auto attack issue is resolved WRT it turning off automatically. I think it was a stealth issue.

But, I am missing out on DPS due to missing auto attacks.

1. with 2 dirges in a raid, I cannot get OgreBot to cast CoB. Currently, i have to push CoB CA about 4 times to get it to cast, which normally conflicts with my auto attack. how do I utilize the Bot's script for COB (dirge tab)? What text do i put into the space under COB?

2. When casting a stealth attack, the bots auto attack timer doesn't include the 2nd CA when determining if it has time to cast prior auto attack. I don't play any other steath classes, so I can't confirm if it is just the dirge or not (assuming it is all stealth classes). Is there anyway for you work in both attacks total cast time vs. just the stealth (or stealth attack)?

 

[Kevinshp]

BTW, the auto attack issue is resolved WRT it turning off automatically. I think it was a stealth issue.

But, I am missing out on DPS due to missing auto attacks.

1. with 2 dirges in a raid, I cannot get OgreBot to cast CoB. Currently, i have to push CoB CA about 4 times to get it to cast, which normally conflicts with my auto attack. how do I utilize the Bot's script for COB (dirge tab)? What text do i put into the space under COB?

2. When casting a stealth attack, the bots auto attack timer doesn't include the 2nd CA when determining if it has time to cast prior auto attack. I don't play any other stealth classes, so I can't confirm if it is just the dirge or not (assuming it is all stealth classes). Is there anyway for you work in both attacks total cast time vs. just the stealth (or stealth attack)?

I have similar issues. one I had COB in priority tap but it would cast even if I was in the middle of a chain not good if doing a RO. so I moved it to the CA tab and the named CA tab at the top and put the M for maintain on it. It doesn't seem to cast it when its up will cast other attacks before it casts cob again.

I have also seen the bot break my auto attack with the combo stealth and a ca this kills a dirges DPS.

 

[Kannkor]

uhh...

I'm not understanding what either of you are saying... Tell me exactly what you think is happening (avoid telling me how to fix things.. that's my department). Keep it as simple as possible.

 

[blackee]

1. With 2 dirges in a raid, I cannot get OgreBot to cast COB. How do I utilize the COB on the Dirge tab? What text do i put into the text field? I haven't been able to get this to work.


2. Stealth attacks attacks are inhibiting the auto attack to go off.
-- On the "Setup" tab, I have Bump and Shroud in the "Invis Abilities for Combat Arts" section. Then on the CA tab I have Misfortune's Kiss and Scream of Death. When the bot casts these sequences, it "goes longer" then the auto attack. This delays the auto attack and reduces overall DPS.

Thanks.

 

[insanitywiz]

The CoB text from the dirge tab does not cause the bot to cast CoB, you still need CoB to be a combat buff or CA.

Stealth attacks all turn off auto-attack (this is an EQ2 thing, nothing to do with Ogrebot), if you auto attack while stealthed you break stealth. If you don't want to stop auto attacking to use stealth attacks, stop using stealth attacks. Personally, I would stop using shroud.

 

[Kannkor]

The CoB text from the dirge tab does not cause the bot to cast CoB, you still need CoB to be a combat buff or CA.

It only does the COB check from the CA/NamedCA tab. The rest is correct, you do need to tell the bot to cast it. The text on the COB tab tells the dirge someone else has cast and you shouldn't cast COB.

Stealth attacks all turn off auto-attack (this is an EQ2 thing, nothing to do with Ogrebot), if you auto attack while stealthed you break stealth. If you don't want to stop auto attacking to use stealth attacks, stop using stealth attacks. Personally, I would stop using shroud.

If stealth wasn't so difficult to deal with I'd see if I could calculate the time needed to cast stealth.. but stealth doesn't work worth shit, so I don't see me touching it.

 

[Kevinshp]

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Stealth attacks all turn off auto-attack (this is an EQ2 thing, nothing to do with Ogrebot), if you auto attack while stealthed you break stealth. If you don't want to stop auto attacking to use stealth attacks, stop using stealth attacks. Personally, I would stop using shroud.

Well for me stealth on it's own does not stop an auto attack but its when stealth is cast too far into an auto attack that there isn't enough time to cast the attack before auto attack goes off.
So if stealth is cast right after an auto attack goes off you can get the next ca in NP and move on to next spell unhindered. Shroud being the slower of the two invis spells it seems to miss Autos when that spell is used. so insanitywis has a point but then as a dirge we cut the ability to cast two of our biggest hits by 50%.

so its really shroud spell that causes timing issues

 

[Kannkor]

Well for me stealth on it's own does not stop an auto attack but its when stealth is cast too far into an auto attack that there isn't enough time to cast the attack before auto attack goes off.
So if stealth is cast right after an auto attack goes off you can get the next ca in NP and move on to next spell unhindered. Shroud being the slower of the two invis spells it seems to miss Autos when that spell is used. so insanitywis has a point but then as a dirge we cut the ability to cast two of our biggest hits by 50%.

so its really shroud spell that causes timing issues

Right now the bot does NOT take into account the casting/recovery speed of the invis spells. It only looks at the real spell being cast.

Like I mentioned before, dealing with invis shit is much more hassle than it's worth. I have re-rewritten that section at least 5 times, and I'm still not happy with it, and I doubt I ever will be (because of how the server handles being invis).

I admit.. I don't really have much love for bards. I'll add this to my list, but it's certainly not a priority having 1 spell (shroud) cause delays in your auto attacks SOME of the time... compared to issues/features requrest that will impact/improve multiple classes more frequently...

 

[Kevinshp]

Right now the bot does NOT take into account the casting/recovery speed of the invis spells. It only looks at the real spell being cast.

Like I mentioned before, dealing with invis shit is much more hassle than it's worth. I have re-rewritten that section at least 5 times, and I'm still not happy with it, and I doubt I ever will be (because of how the server handles being invis).

I admit.. I don't really have much love for bards. I'll add this to my list, but it's certainly not a priority having 1 spell (shroud) cause delays in your auto attacks SOME of the time... compared to issues/features requrest that will impact/improve multiple classes more frequently...

But SIR! The needs of the one out weigh the needs of the many! LOL

 

[blackee]

Right now the bot does NOT take into account the casting/recovery speed of the invis spells. It only looks at the real spell being cast.

Like I mentioned before, dealing with invis shit is much more hassle than it's worth. I have re-rewritten that section at least 5 times, and I'm still not happy with it, and I doubt I ever will be (because of how the server handles being invis).

I admit.. I don't really have much love for bards. I'll add this to my list, but it's certainly not a priority having 1 spell (shroud) cause delays in your auto attacks SOME of the time... compared to issues/features requrest that will impact/improve multiple classes more frequently...

No issues with your position! I brought it up in case it was a bug. I'll remove shroud to see if that increases dps.

Different question, what is the best macro to add to a spell to make a Trondheim stop casting (i.e. /sit, /jump)?

 

[Kannkor]

No issues with your position! I brought it up in case it was a bug. I'll remove shroud to see if that increases dps.

Different question, what is the best macro to add to a spell to make a Trondheim stop casting (i.e. /sit, /jump)?

I'd personally use: /cancel_spellcast since it's built for cancelling your current spell

 

[insanitywiz]

Well for me stealth on it's own does not stop an auto attack but its when stealth is cast too far into an auto attack that there isn't enough time to cast the attack before auto attack goes off.
So if stealth is cast right after an auto attack goes off you can get the next ca in NP and move on to next spell unhindered. Shroud being the slower of the two invis spells it seems to miss Autos when that spell is used. so insanitywis has a point but then as a dirge we cut the ability to cast two of our biggest hits by 50%.

so its really shroud spell that causes timing issues

All stealth abilities toggle Auto attack off if I remember correctly. However, CA's that require stealth, like most other CA's, toggle autoattack on when used. I actually do use stealth myself, as part of a chain for RO, but not as a regular part of my CA's.

 

[ozdon]

All stealth abilities toggle Auto attack off if I remember correctly. However, CA's that require stealth, like most other CA's, toggle autoattack on when used. I actually do use stealth myself, as part of a chain for RO, but not as a regular part of my CA's.

you should a lot of dirge dps can come from the sequence;
Bump, Scream of Death, Shroud, Misfortune's Kiss