Psionists

[larrydoyle]

So at the Psionists. Healers are ok with group damage, but the multiple zaps are killing the 2 tanks. Do you need 4 tanks for this to split up the mob's zaps, or is there some way to avoid or reduce the zaps? Would like to see if I can pass the dps time check, but need to have my tanks survive. Any help or hints appreciated!

 

[Kannkor]

A tank can only survive with 2 mobs on them. If you have 3 (or is it 4?) you get 1 shot (and a red text telling you).

If you are tanking 2 mobs on a tank, you will want to make sure you have a lot of health (10m+) and good priests. Because the max hit with 2 on you is just under 5m. So if both of them hit you at once, you need to be able to survive it. And for some reason, my tank who tanks 2, also ends up tanking the guardian, so that's another mob tossing around some hits.

Looking at ACT, my tank who tanks 2 mobs, has a income damage of 2.7m DPS.
Tank who tanks 1 mob has 1.3m DPS.
And lastly, the shitty 3rd tank 1.65m DPS.

If you want to go 4 tanks, you should have no issue with tank damage. If you want to maintain aggro well, you could use 2 tanks each tanking 2, but the pull is really annoying, because if 3 hit someone, they are likely dying, and if they die it's a wipe.
I find 3 tanks makes it a cake walk as long as the 1 tank who tanks 2, is beefy enough.

From the priest side...
My defiler did 3.4m HPS and my warden did 700k HPS (on the Guardian tanking 2).

 

[larrydoyle]

Extremely helpful feedback and much appreciated!

 

[Isnewbie]

The guardian agro the first person in the raid, so make sure your first tank is beefy. The guardian will attack first person regardless if they're tank or not. Found this out when my tank went ld once and came back in a different position within the first group.

 

[Kannkor]

The guardian agro the first person in the raid, so make sure your first tank is beefy. The guardian will attack first person regardless if they're tank or not. Found this out when my tank went ld once and came back in a different position within the first group.

Well that explains why it always goes to my tank... who happens to be tanking 2.

 

[Kevinshp]

what has worked the best for you guys as far as pulling them and having go in the realm of where you would like them ? We've tried hammer pulling kinda works also having a healer use divine dispair

 

[Kannkor]

Real raid vs bot raid greatly depends.
Bot raids generally have to position in a pre-defined location. Real raids can shift based on where the mobs end up.
So, from a bot point of view, I start off by just charging in, getting the raid into position, then I place the mobs afterwards. You can move the mobs, but their pathing isn't really the best, but with a few tries you can generally get them whereever you want. Just takes practice and learning how to move mobs.

 

[nobody1]

Anyway to execute just the water part only? It's killing my wrist.

 

[Kannkor]

Anyway to execute just the water part only? It's killing my wrist.

For a 'in a real guild' situation? If so... I could likely consider an option to force you to do it, instead of assuming you are in a full bot raid.

 

[nobody1]

For a 'in a real guild' situation? If so... I could likely consider an option to force you to do it, instead of assuming you are in a full bot raid.

Yeah sorry, I meant in a real raid. I play my toons myself in raid but run isx for some tools. I still use the old see raid targets to see who's targetting what and know who to yell at. OSA, radar, etc. But Psionists they often have me doing the water, and it's probably gonna give me carpal tunnel...