V 17 Ogre Profile Request Thread!
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The provided ones are pretty nicely done. Saha also posted a few on the Ogre forums.
Kevinshp
Well-Known Member
wouldn't mind seeing a few different ranger ones judging by some of the parses shown
Gorrok
Active Member
Thanks Cheesy - look forward to some of your other Uber profiles
so where are the new V17 profiles posted ?It would be great to see some tweaked v17 profiles from some of the experts
I did download the Brigand profile and that was a nice bump in DPS for my group.
So a big thanks to Saha for helping out the community with those improved profiles and AA specs - very nice package.
A question about the aa file that comes with the new v17 profiles, where exactly do you put them? I have looked all over in my eq2 folder but cant find where to put it.
Why has it been changed from where you could look and check the AA setup of the new profile with your own? Or is this a new better way?
Thx
k
Why has it been changed from where you could look and check the AA setup of the new profile with your own? Or is this a new better way?
Thx
k
Kevinshp
Well-Known Member
they just go in your EverQuestII folder not any sub-folders
C: program data sony online installed games EverQuestII
AA profiles are totally optional. But if you load a profile and its attempting to use abilities you don't have for whatever reason, then it'll cause issues.
As always, best thing to do, adapt profiles to suit your toons. Copy/Paste from others won't work anywhere near as well as adapting to your own situations.
DaggerSplicer
Active Member
I think the best way to get others to help with your profile is by posting the one your interested in getting advise for, then let others give their input on it. Usually, someone post their profile and then everyone follows suit.
Kannkor
Ogre
The new defiler sample is mine. So if you're after a defensive/major healing set up, one is available as the sample. If you're wanting dps... Don't use it
Kevinshp
Well-Known Member
Betraying to ranger!
That is what I was afraid of.
Kannkor
Ogre
The same as what people did before chain tabs existed... Just build a profile without worrying about a 'chain' tab.
Or betray to ranger...
Rangers really are WAY more bot friendly. As time permits, I do plan to sit down and see if I can find a suitable solution for assassins, but it is highly unlikely to be a short/easy task.Chain tabs were a complete mess in v16, inefficient, and a nightmare to deal with. Is why they didn't make a come back. (Not saying I won't bring them back, but I'm not saying I will either).
Fair enough. Perhaps just adding back the IS option if that would be easier than working with chains.The same as what people did before chain tabs existed... Just build a profile without worrying about a 'chain' tab.
Or betray to ranger...
Chain tabs were a complete mess in v16, inefficient, and a nightmare to deal with. Is why they didn't make a come back. (Not saying I won't bring them back, but I'm not saying I will either).
Kannkor
Ogre
That wouldn't make any sense at all...
If you have an ability that NEVER needs stealth, let me know and I can fix it globally. But if you have an ability that could ever need stealth, marking as Ignore Stealth, would cause Ogrebot to get completely stuck on it, and it wouldn't cast a single thing, because it would try to cast it, but fail cause of not invis, and it would keep on trying.
Oh. What I was hoping would happen is I'd beable to do something like Assassinate IS and then a normal Assassinate right under it. It makes sense that it would break everything though.
To be honest, this isn't really a lack of chains problem. This is more of a problem with assassin's many steathed required abilities that most are on thesame reuse so many of them just won't be casted or can't be casted. FFU is hitting so weak because after hitting PFT or IPS the spells are still requrining stealth.
If there was a way to make Orgrebot understand that these could be casted without stealth if PFT or IPS is running that would be hugely helpful. Even Stealth Assault that doesn't require stealth for me (-You must be in stealth or have Bloody Assault) will not cast without first having an ability cast prior that will put him in stealth.
Thanks for your time. You've been great.
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If you are willing to mess around with it, I really think you could probably do decently with IPS + Pre/Post cast.
You would have to edit the Export files and remove stealth requirements, but, it would be possible to at least make up some of the difference in the mean time.
Example:
Cast Stack:
Jugular Slice (With Stealth removed in export). - Precast IPS. Post cast Mortal Blade (With stealth removed in export).
Masked Strike - Precast Eviscerate, Post cast Ambush
Assassinate - Would use Stalk to trigger it
Stealth Assault - Pre-Cast Massacre - Post Cast FFU
Would it be perfect? Not really, but it'd potentially stand a good chance of being ok.
You'd have to put time and effort into getting it right of course, above order is just theoretical.
Kannkor
Ogre
For PFT, if you can get SOE to add it to the maintained window, I can add support for it. But as of right now, after you use it, you just start smashing buttons until you get the you need to be stealth, because you can't actually see when it's on you, and when it fades.
I don't know what IPS is, so I can't comment there. If it's the one where you use certain abilities and it puts you back into stealth, unfortunately that's not very reliable, EQ2's client side data for when you are invis is really, really bad. It can take 1/2 to 3s before the client realizes you are invisible.
IPS = Left side Assassin Prestige, that allows you 10s of using stealth abilities while not in stealth. As far as I'm aware, it shows in the maintained window.
Rangers also have a version, Wreak Havoc (Left side prestige again), which does the same. As neither actually puts you in stealth, and both appear in maintained window, could potentially be a quick fix in the mean time?
It's not just FFU being hit at the best point, it's many of our high hitting abilities that just won't cast because they are on the same timer as others. I'm sure, like the Ranger, we only have 3 abilities (not 100% on that) that will put us in stealth but 8 or 9 stealth abilities. So, and as I mentioned in the post previously, it's not FFU or chains that is the problem; it's IPS and PFT not registering you are able to cast stealthed abilities without being in stealth.
You will cast FFU without issue after hitting Assassinate so that isn't and never was the problem. It's simply taking nearly half of assassins main dps abilities away from them.
Not a kick at anyone as I understand if this is a pain in the ass and simply isn't logical. I was just stating the facts. Rangers are facing the same issue, it's just not as bad because they don't have as many stealthed attacks, nor do they have an ending ability such as FFU that destroys.
lazycrafter
Member
So many bads not knowing what they are talking about.
lazycrafter
Member
I posted a somewhat workaround here http://forums.ogregaming.com/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=59&start=20 . Basically your long and short FF chains are a profile of their own.