DoV Parse Thread

Orwak · Dec 13, 2011

New Dx2 run

Prime Tentu-Zonn Clodae: 03:11 120905996 633015,70
Warlock 266439,50
Troub 128781,90
SK 107803,50
Illu 74309,59
Inquis 37212,73
Mystic 18468,43

Sparerib: 01:21 66804878 824751,60
Warlock 346829,20
Troub 172639,80
SK 129937,20
Illu 110258,00
Inquis 46687,73
Mystic 18399,69

Guardian of V'uul: 01:53 77134876 682609,50
Warlock 228685,60
Troub 133635,10
Illu 126504,30
SK 108060,50
Inquis 60968,50
Mystic 24755,44

Arch Confessor Aytali: 01:55 107598814 935641,90
Warlock 321551,30
Troub 256527,50
SK 160254,80
Illu 132764,10
Inquis 41071,55
Mystic 23472,69

Yet to kill the queen though ... Got it to 20%:ish at the most. Will have to look more into survivability for her I think.

Orwak · Dec 21, 2011

Had quite a lot to do the last week and I've also been grinding my wizard in the spare time I've had, so haven't had much to parse, but here are some of yesterday's parses.

Was a little sloppy pull on Undr - got three toons dead while positioning him - so lost a lot there, polished the rest some though.

Empowered Idol of Rallos Zek: 03:23 82534556 406574,20
Warlock 146103,50
Troub 88080,99
Shadowknight 76962,87
Illu 75495,84
Inquis 14786,46
Mystic 5144,53

Prime-Cornicen Munderrad: 08:01 300371671 624473,30
Warlock 242795,10
Troub 130371,80
Shadowknight 112608,00
Illu 83439,80
Inquis 34665,59
Mystic 20593,00

Prime-Curator Undr: 07:41 289662524 628335,20
Warlock 233790,30
Troub 135527,50
Shadowknight 100369,10
Illu 89546,41
Inquis 46051,32
Mystic 23050,61

Proto-Exarch Finnrdag: 07:24 227773178 513002,70
Warlock 188376,50
Troub 107590,30
Shadowknight 89146,77
Illu 77660,38
Inquis 39173,41
Mystic 11055,32

Imperator Kolskeggr: 08:55 401040133 749607,80
Warlock 297007,10
Troub 147350,90
Shadowknight 130982,20
Illu 109129,70
Inquis 41272,35
Mystic 23865,40

Orwak · Dec 22, 2011

Today's Kraytoc run. Still haven't gotten my head around how to sort Eireen efficiently enough, but I guess I'll find a way one of those days.

First time with only one tank on Tert (yeah, got fed up with having to log my guard in, split the turtles etc, so I went with brute force this time). Should be a fairly accurate parse (parsed on SK, SK+Inq on one side, mages and mystic ranged on the other side, troub on the mage side just intercepting when it ports, SK running across).

Iilatus Frostbeard: 03:57 173421821 731737,60
Warlock 282960,10
Troub 140139,90
SK 124137,40
Illu 109883,90
Inquis 49809,65
Mystic 24806,63

Tert Turganpuncher: 02:59 57614719 321869,90
Warlock 177382,70
SK 75506,25
Illu 31687,99
Troub 28932,75
Inquis 6853,36
Mystic 1506,89

Right and Left: 02:13 94440363 710077,90
Warlock 277473,70
Troub 145485,30
SK 123750,80
Illu 120466,30
Inquis 33280,25
Mystic 9621,58

Kreegar Krikneck: 05:01 204473211 679313,00
Warlock 293099,90
Troub 123237,60
SK 114632,90
Illu 89693,04
Inquis 38283,93
Mystic 20365,54

Commander Klaktaz: 01:28 76375076 867898,60
Warlock 382785,10
SK 187709,80
Troub 139257,90
Illu 105955,60
Inquis 30472,13
Mystic 21718,08

Commander Yutzal: 01:49 88296724 810061,70
Warlock 335436,30
SK 178643,40
Troub 137607,50
Illu 102183,10
Inquis 31464,04
Mystic 24727,30

Taaltak the Mighty: 02:43 153495881 941692,50
Warlock 390760,40
SK 204695,80
Troub 175259,90
Illu 106368,40
Inquis 36902,39
Mystic 27705,55

shaggy5 · Jan 14, 2012

What kind of gear do you guys have to be able to 1 grp X4 - Did I miss that in a post?

My set-up is:
Zerk - all EM gear except Head is rygor - EM jewelry
Dirge - Mostly HM gear - EM chest and a few EM Jewelry left
Swash - Newest member - Mostly Drunder x2 Gear and x2 Jewelry
Coercer - Dunder x2 and EM mixture gear - x2 Jewelry
Mystic - EM gear and 1 rygor gear (feet) - EM and x2 Jewelry
Inqy - Em and Drunder x2 gear - x2 Jewelry

Here is what I can clear:
Instances
Tofs - All
Rime - First 2, still have a little trouble with Agnes from Fortress
KD - All
EoW - First 3 - Last Guy, when he first splits into 2, kicks my ass

Raid
ToFS x2
Xalgoti
Evac dude
Necretia
Weapon dude
Everyone else - faceplant

Parses: Average between 250k - 300k

Question:
Any set-up suggestions?

Is there other stuff I should be able to kill and just need to practice on to get it right with the gear I have? In your opinions

How do you deal with getting Blue shards? I get the ones from x2 ToFS, but do not raid, and basically buy my gear from auction channel?

Anything else I should still be able to kill but am not

Orwak · Jan 14, 2012

First two in Kraytoc's there is no real DPS limit for, but to pass the third one there and the first in Temple you'll need roughly 450-500k, and then it's loooong fights. I've been working some on my melee crew (Monk, Dirge, Inq, Mystic, Coercer, Assassin/Beastlord) lately, and they are quite poorly geared compared to my caster crew and it's a huge difference in how long it takes to kill mobs with popping adds going from the 450k-550k my melee crew puts out to 650k-850k my caster crew puts out. On Kolskeggr for example, we're talking more than twice the time.

Anyway, don't bother too much until you're around 450k at least I'd say. It'll just be a long, dull fight that is more likely to kill the fun rather than the mobs.

My gear:
Caster crew:
SK/Troub: Mostly HM gear, some odd x2 and EM pieces left still
Warlock: HM/HMD gear
Illu: HM armour excl. BP, a wide mix on the rest
Inq: Mostly HM gear, some EM and x2 stuff left still
Defiler: EM/x2 gear mostly, some heroic crap as well

Melee crew:
Monk: Mostly HM/HMD gear, sucky weapons still (em/x2)
Dirge/Coercer/Inq/Mystic: Mostly EM/x2 gear, a few HM and heroic pieces
Assassin: Mix of HM/EM, some odd x2/heroic pieces
Beastlord: Mostly EM, a few odd x2 pieces, fabled epics.

Might take a few runs again today or tomorrow and post some melee crew parses. Been a while since I posted any, but I've been working on my beastlord, grinding AA:s during the exp weekend and stuff like that, so haven't had much to paste parses from.

shaggy5 · Jan 14, 2012

I see a lot is my gear - and maybe my setups for each toon - I don't raid (got completely burnt outin a HC guild for a while) so I only get gear from what people sell. Meaning at best I can get everyone EM x4 geared eventually.

What about ToFS x2? With what I have, should I be able to at least kill everything in that zone? I ask cuz i need blue shards bad so I can get rid of my empty red slots on 4 of my toons.

Everyones CM is at about 160-200. Realistically, in your opinion from seeing my gear and CM and DPS, should I be able to do any of the drunder zones? including x2? EM is a long way from even achieving, so forget that. Also, EoW should I be able to kill the last guy?

I still need a lot of practice with this software so I do not expect to hear back from you and go and destroy all of EQ2, lol... I am just looking for goals, and things to give a shot at once I have run everything I can complete for a day.

Orwak · Jan 14, 2012

ToFS you should be able to kill most parts of at least, Drunder x2 you ought to be able to kill the first few nameds in at least. Haven't tried Dx2 myself with a low dps setup, neither have I done EoW, so can't say really.

200k-300k sounds pretty low tbh, so I bet you can still tweak a little more there. I was fairly gimpedly geared first time I took my melee crew on a ride, and I managed to push out around 450k-500k without any major issue really.

Post some parses from ToFS, then we can see where the potential lies.

Prime-Cornicen Munderrad: 09:38 302556500 523454,20
Beastlord 233036,90
Monk 112009,50
Dirge 65807,86
Coercer 59208,42
Mystic 36347,33
Inquis 17044,17

Prime-Curator Undr: 09:15 288453612 519736,30
Beastlord 237385,30
Monk 104246,30
Dirge 66215,00
Coercer 61122,36
Mystic 31629,64
Inquis 19137,62

Proto-Exarch Finnrdag: 09:02 224487316 414183,30
Beastlord 163511,70
Monk 91051,45
Dirge 59257,18
Coercer 57678,52
Mystic 23834,43
Inquis 18849,98

Pretty much untweaked dirge/coe/inq. Forgot to select the non-stealth required primals, so somewhat gimped dps right there. Also first try with Primals firing at Feral level 6, so we'll see what some adjustments will do during the upcoming week.

shaggy5 · Jan 14, 2012

I am looking through the default profile and aa set ups - and I see some of my aa setups are a bit different - I saved my current set ups (aa mirror) and am going to try the ones available on the wiki, just to see if there is much difference.

A lot of my issue with like ToFS x2 Romero for instance: is the first hit - if I can get past the first hit the healers seem to be fine, cuz the zerker has a few oh shit you cant kill me spells.

My swashy is my newest, and his aa is prolly the worst - Just wondering if anyone has a swashie and zerker set up for me to compare.

Also the profiles on the wiki - if i want to try them - they are just xml when i click or save them. Do I need to copy and paste over what my profile says - or can I simply just save the xml file and place it in the profiles folder?

EDIT: I figured out how to use the profile samples on the wiki site.

Kevinshp · Jan 14, 2012

shaggy5 said:
I am looking through the default profile and aa set ups - and I see some of my aa setups are a bit different - I saved my current set ups (aa mirror) and am going to try the ones available on the wiki, just to see if there is much difference.

A lot of my issue with like ToFS x2 Romero for instance: is the first hit - if I can get past the first hit the healers seem to be fine, cuz the zerker has a few oh shit you cant kill me spells.

My swashy is my newest, and his aa is prolly the worst - Just wondering if anyone has a swashie and zerker set up for me to compare.

Also the profiles on the wiki - if i want to try them - they are just xml when i click or save them. Do I need to copy and paste over what my profile says - or can I simply just save the xml file and place it in the profiles folder?

EDIT: I figured out how to use the profile samples on the wiki site.

If you want to use profiles from wiki yes they are XML but if you just download it to your ogre folder it will overwrite what's there so better to save to desktop or something and use note pad and edit your setup then it will be in your profile as a drop down.

dwdavis2 · Jan 14, 2012

shaggy5 said:
Question:
Any set-up suggestions?

Is there other stuff I should be able to kill and just need to practice on to get it right with the gear I have? In your opinions

How do you deal with getting Blue shards? I get the ones from x2 ToFS, but do not raid, and basically buy my gear from auction channel?

Anything else I should still be able to kill but am not

My melee group is pretty close to this (although I can't replicate it exactly because coercer and berserker are on the same account), and with worse gear (no EM/HM aside from a few cloaks from the circling guy), I can also kill:
- The third Rime instance
- The first two Drunder and part of ToT (although you're right at the edge of the DPS necessary for the last named in SS to keep up with adds)
- Romero, the other guy on that floor, Cara Ormica, and the librarian in ToFSx2 (but the librarian is a pain and I usually skip her)
- The first two named encounters in the Drunder x2 (I swap in a second tank for the first named encounter, but your dirge probably has the gear to tank it). The fourth named is possibly doable as well.
- The x4 named that you have to run around in a circle.
I haven't killed the last guy in EoW yet either, but I think I'll have him down before too long.

That gives me something like 10 blue shards per run between the two x2s and the x4, depending on how much I feel like doing.

I suspect there's more DPS to be had from your group with tweaking, because my melee groups top out around 300k on a single-target encounter with worse gear, but I run the default swashbuckler script so I'm not sure how.

shaggy5 · Jan 14, 2012

Right now, I downloaded and am going to try the set-ups bj posted, since he seemed to post 4/6 of my group members. I figure I will see how that goes then make some tweaks between what I had and what bj has... I know I can output more dps, because when I just solo with my dirge in a group or PUG, my dirge alone does between 150k-175k - I just haven't been at this program long enough to output that kind of dps. I know I will eventually up my dps, because when I was only using Innerspace and repeaters, I always averaged about 100k min.

EoW, I will eventually get, I kill the first of the last named - it is the first split that is kicking my ass. Romero... I am just a one bite snack for him, it is just the first hit, which is most of my problem with anything I am not able to kill. I have to figure out a way for my healers (Inqy/Mystic) to cast or pre-ward so I can absorb the initial run in. However, thank you for letting me know how far you are able to get,this will give me some goals and new zones to try. Now do you just use one profile, or do you have other profiles saved for certain fights? I am assuming some fights require different strategies. Is there a way to load profiles thru the console instead of clicking thru all the screens?

dwdavis2 · Jan 14, 2012

If you're using the default setup where the tank attacks anything targetted and need to pre-ward, you can target yourself and turn on autoattack, which should start the combat routines. For Romero, I also tab over to a healer and cast a death prevent before pulling.

I mostly use the same routines for everything. The only special ones I use are a mez-only routine I use on an enchanter for the triad fight in Drunder 1, and a dual-tank setup for offtanking like the first named in the Drunder x2. Whether you can switch through the console I have no idea because I've never tried anything other than doing it manually.

Orwak · Jan 15, 2012

Throne run ... Had a friend tagging along instead of my own dirge, so that bumped the DPS some (though the debuffs weren't where I wanted them at all times

). He left for Tormax though. Had a 2:nd mystic in on Modrfrost to keep it smooth with cures and stuff.

Primus Pilus Gunnr: 04:40 197761268 706290,30
Beastlord 255341,60
Dirge (Friend) 168516,80
Monk 141049,90
Coercer 75663,43
Mystic 43013,03
Inquis 22705,60

Imperator Kolskeggr: 12:03 466317875 644976,30
Beastlord 246381,10
Monk 146482,70
Dirge (Friend) 143265,40
Coercer 65590,52
Mystic 26778,76
Inquis 16477,87

Legatus Prime Mikill: 06:14 185787910 496759,10
Beastlord 173468,00
Monk 123851,80
Dirge (Friend) 89145,36
Coercer 69393,55
Mystic 27635,51
Inquis 13264,96

Arch-Magistor Modrfrost: 07:19 230838823 525828,80
Beastlord 188836,70
Monk 115153,80
Dirge (Friend) 109557,10
Coercer 56469,21
Mystic 28394,09
Mystic 2 (Sep. Group) 17277,84
Inquis 10140,03

King Tormax: 20:25 589005239 480820,60
Beastlord 208672,40
Monk 114028,40
Dirge 70869,30
Coercer 48613,92
Mystic 27583,43
Inquis 11053,21

Orwak · Jan 18, 2012

Throne EM, now with my own dirge and only two healers. Had shitty luck on Gunnr with the brawler add popping all the bloody time, then for the kill pull the BL hit the deck mid-fight as it ripped aggro on the add. It was up at around 425k before that.

Primus Pilus Gunnr: 03:49 187714115 819712,30
Beastlord 383878,40
Monk 143362,70
Dirge 123046,60
Coercer 80762,46
Inquis 57319,74
Mystic 31342,33

Imperator Kolskeggr: 07:57 374388721 784882,00
Beastlord 376839,70
Monk 149503,60
Dirge 99604,71
Coercer 69134,81
Inquis 58699,05
Mystic 31100,20

Legatus Prime Mikill: 05:46 182773225 528246,30
Beastlord 208622,30
Monk 122086,30
Dirge 72381,23
Coercer 68987,16
Inquis 31297,66
Mystic 24871,76

Arch-Magistor Modrfrost: 06:07 221178869 602667,20
Beastlord 273244,40
Monk 120533,30
Dirge 75570,48
Coercer 57518,28
Inquis 46795,57
Mystic 29005,12

King Tormax: 14:58 502430057 559498,90
Beastlord 241530,90
Monk 111959,20
Dirge 77865,87
Coercer 60055,27
Inquis 38930,95
Mystic 29156,75

mistahmikey · Jan 18, 2012

Orwak said:
Throne EM, now with my own dirge and only two healers. Had shitty luck on Gunnr with the brawler add popping all the bloody time, then for the kill pull the BL hit the deck mid-fight as it ripped aggro on the add. It was up at around 425k before that.

Primus Pilus Gunnr: 03:49 187714115 819712,30
Beastlord 383878,40
Monk 143362,70
Dirge 123046,60
Coercer 80762,46
Inquis 57319,74
Mystic 31342,33

Imperator Kolskeggr: 07:57 374388721 784882,00
Beastlord 376839,70
Monk 149503,60
Dirge 99604,71
Coercer 69134,81
Inquis 58699,05
Mystic 31100,20

Legatus Prime Mikill: 05:46 182773225 528246,30
Beastlord 208622,30
Monk 122086,30
Dirge 72381,23
Coercer 68987,16
Inquis 31297,66
Mystic 24871,76

Arch-Magistor Modrfrost: 06:07 221178869 602667,20
Beastlord 273244,40
Monk 120533,30
Dirge 75570,48
Coercer 57518,28
Inquis 46795,57
Mystic 29005,12

King Tormax: 14:58 502430057 559498,90
Beastlord 241530,90
Monk 111959,20
Dirge 77865,87
Coercer 60055,27
Inquis 38930,95
Mystic 29156,75

I have most of the same group, and it is very well geared, but it gets nowhere near this kind of production. So if you would like to be helpful, would you mind posting the profiles you use? Also, do you actually play one of the toons, or do you run them all via Ogre?

Orwak · Jan 18, 2012

mistahmikey said:
I have most of the same group, and it is very well geared, but it gets nowhere near this kind of production. So if you would like to be helpful, would you mind posting the profiles you use? Also, do you actually play one of the toons, or do you run them all via Ogre?

Switching between the monk as "main" (to be ready with oh-shits) and tossing occasional primals with the beastlord that won't go off (being able to use chains with Savagery levels would help that a lot).

Apart from that, no excessive tweaking is done really ... Mitigation debuffs first of all, then it's random button mashing from the dirge and coercer pretty much, mystic is exclusively healing with RoA on the BL, monk has the three chains with different Combination combos and the rest is button mashing.
The beastlord I've set up to have the advantages as Named CAs (forced) apart from those not requiring a specific target which goes under priorities. Regular CA:s under regular CA tab and primals trigger at 5 along with savage freeze starting out with those not affected by feral levels. Currently running Beatdown, Draconic Breath, TS Venom, NoxGrasp, Savage Ravaging and Claw of Khati Sha.

Won't share the detailed profiles just yet as I'm still tweaking them. Mystic, Dirge, Coercer, Monk are pretty much slightly modified default setups, the Inquis I'm far from satisfied with (too low healing, not enough dps, working on finding a middle way around it and I'm not sure it would fit anyone really) and the beastlord is still on the experimental stage. The pointers above should however take you fairly close to what I have set up.

Meanwhile, I think there aren't enough parses posted here by all you guys! Heroic stuff, x2, x4, dummy parses ... whatever, let's see some numbers!

Orwak · Jan 18, 2012

Prime-Cornicen Munderrad: 06:32 279274244 712434,30
Beastlord 338039,80
Monk 122544,90
Dirge 101619,50
Coercer 67221,38
Inquis 53964,44
Mystic 29044,22

Prime-Curator Undr: 05:42 285760785 835557,90
Beastlord 400139,10
Monk 136258,40
Dirge 116875,90
Coercer 81801,89
Inquis 60941,87
Mystic 39540,77

Proto-Exarch Finnrdag: 06:25 225078194 584618,70
Beastlord 258661,90
Monk 108789,00
Dirge 80353,32
Coercer 66697,41
Inquis 49421,21
Mystic 20695,88

Supreme Imperium Valdemar: 11:46 420573934 595713,80
Beastlord 292278,10
Monk 108055,60
Dirge 85349,08
Coercer 53173,22
Inquis 39984,55
Mystic 16873,23

Starting to really like this crew ... even more than my caster crew. :evil: Still not as pimp on large AE encounters of course, but that's another story.

pz · Jan 19, 2012

jesus christ nerf beastlords. (nice parses)

Orwak · Jan 20, 2012

New Throne run. Noticed when I had Tormax at 20:ish % that I had the inquis in heal stance ... shit happens!

Primus Pilus Gunnr: 03:36 188180991 871208,30
Beastlord 431384,80
Monk 154116,40
Dirge 110772,00
Coercer 82469,49
Inquis 49157,29
Mystic 38200,66

Imperator Kolskeggr: 08:28 386937701 761688,40
Beastlord 356912,00
Monk 155939,10
Dirge 99488,25
Coercer 73803,66
Inquis 40731,67
Mystic 34813,70

Legatus Prime Mikill: 05:49 182940793 524185,70
Beastlord 218945,20
Monk 116478,80
Dirge 74608,46
Coercer 74167,99
Mystic 21230,88
Inquis 18754,35

Arch-Magistor Modrfrost: 06:05 222379858 609259,90
Beastlord 304594,80
Monk 107659,50
Dirge 74277,25
Coercer 67468,12
Inquis 34865,59
Mystic 20394,60

King Tormax: 16:00 529865410 551943,10
Beastlord 253585,80
Monk 122833,70
Dirge 70861,82
Coercer 59564,05
Inquis 32159,18
Mystic 12938,56

amyglyn · Jan 20, 2012

Holy crap, you were able to 1 group tormax? ^_^

And Valdemarr...that's pretty amazing.

How hard was Valdemarr for you?

I have not tried Valdemarr (I can do the first 3 no prob though)...

I can do shoulders, weapon, and cloak (i dont bother with cloak anymore though) in throne...But how are you dealing with the hands guy??? Just do it until you get lucky?

The other question is what are you doin' for the 2nd to last guy in drunder x2? I'll be honest I've never attempted to one group it...Oddly enough I'm quite sure I could get the final guy with one group I think, but the 2nd to last guy, I'm not sure how I'd do it. Do you use like, Sol Ro on everyone and then make a huge VC or something? But wouldn't the awful AOEs from her kill the pets? I have a pretty good group, dps between 500 and 900k, I can take out Idol in torz challenge mode and such mind you. Group is guard/mystic/inq/necro/illy/troub. Have a monk on guard account but it's not as geared as the guard (420 MA on guard is fun).

Orwak · Jan 21, 2012

amyglyn said:
Holy crap, you were able to 1 group tormax? ^_^

And Valdemarr...that's pretty amazing. How hard was Valdemarr for you?

I have not tried Valdemarr (I can do the first 3 no prob though)...

I can do shoulders, weapon, and cloak (i dont bother with cloak anymore though) in throne...But how are you dealing with the hands guy??? Just do it until you get lucky?

The other question is what are you doin' for the 2nd to last guy in drunder x2? I'll be honest I've never attempted to one group it...Oddly enough I'm quite sure I could get the final guy with one group I think, but the 2nd to last guy, I'm not sure how I'd do it. Do you use like, Sol Ro on everyone and then make a huge VC or something? But wouldn't the awful AOEs from her kill the pets? I have a pretty good group, dps between 500 and 900k, I can take out Idol in torz challenge mode and such mind you. Group is guard/mystic/inq/necro/illy/troub. Have a monk on guard account but it's not as geared as the guard (420 MA on guard is fun).

Starting from the end ...
Miracles: I rarely use miracles, mostly because I cba to do deity quests on most toons and those who have a deity at all, I cba to keep up the faction. And if I do, I forget to use them anyway.

Second from last guy in Dx2 I've only done once I think, mostly because I don't need crap from there apart from shoes (as I haven't made it past Eireen yet) and the mount, so I usually quit before that. What I did though was a straight burn. Pulled it next to where it pops, then did a full burn before adds made it up there. I might have used some miracle on it, but I doubt I'd need it today if I'd try.

Gunnr is quite easy. Either you have a second tank – that's how I did it before I got my DPS up – or you simply do a straight burn. I think I'm to the point where I actually can just offtank the first add, but I've so far burned the first add as it pops (1/3rd of having a "bad pop" in which case I evac, group-fd or just wipe, and then retry). Basically, the longer the fight lasts, the more likely you'll need a second tank.

Valdermarr is still a pain in the butt at times. The spike damage on the add pops has wiped me more than just occasionally to be fair. Failing on the rotation with tsunami etc is the biggest issue really. Basically, what you'll need is loads of heals and high enough DPS to burn down at least one of the adds quick as hell. Now that my monk is fairly geared up and so, I usually leave one of the enraged up to have something to beat on when the stoneskin is up on the named.

Tormax, well here I use a 3-spot rotation with all toons in front of Tormax at all times. The three spots are controlled via the MCP and 3 different Chance_Campspot keys. They are set far enough to be just outside the vortex range (which will always pop at the same spots as all the toons are in the same position) and I have the beastlord casting the first debuff through MCP and from there they will sort it themselves. Raid options turned off (as in all fights apart from Modrfrost). From there, it's just about having DPS enough to burn the adds really. The damage output from the Tormax and his adds aren't that big as long as the debuff is in.

Next project is Statue, but it's a bitchy fight from which I don't really need anything, so it's just a one-time kill most likely. Perhaps I'll just give Eireen a new try, but the other fights in there are so bloody annoying that I try to avoid that place as you might have noticed from my parses.

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Edit: Took a run through Dx2 just for shits and giggles. First cut out due to range, not sure why the BL parsed crap on Sparerib. The crap parse from the Coercer on Queen was due to having crowd control on by mistake.

Prime Tentu-Zonn Clodae: 02:42 120708597 745114,80
Beastlord 357692,30
Monk 116135,80
Dirge 98964,84
Coercer 72895,10
Inquis 57022,08
Mystic 42404,64

Sparerib: 01:25 58061129 683072,10
Beastlord 276747,20
Monk 150711,80
Dirge 105746,50
Coercer 64101,41
Inquis 46518,02
Mystic 39247,14

Guardian of V'uul: 01:38 79197211 808134,80
Beastlord 421046,00
Monk 136839,20
Dirge 103174,80
Coercer 90557,02
Inquis 48844,83
Mystic 7672,95

Arch Confessor Aytali: 02:28 115617520 781199,40
Beastlord 341944,20
Monk 145303,50
Dirge 102502,10
Coercer 99290,88
Mystic 47175,24
Inquis 44983,51

Queen Vorticia V'uul: 02:01 98302924 812420,90
Beastlord 410296,00
Monk 199396,80
Dirge 93939,33
Inquis 48886,95
Mystic 38227,21
Coercer 21674,59

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Edit2: Temple, somewhat crappy Undr pull, the BL hit the floor once.

Prime-Cornicen Munderrad: 06:05 279544454 765875,20
Beastlord 366005,50
Monk 138010,10
Dirge 103355,00
Coercer 76490,66
Inquis 44714,08
Mystic 37299,92

Prime-Curator Undr: 06:13 285624298 765748,80
Beastlord 377269,70
Monk 125537,30
Dirge 99571,88
Coercer 78522,48
Mystic 43527,10
Inquis 41320,36

Proto-Exarch Finnrdag: 06:19 226472125 597551,80
Beastlord 281282,40
Monk 108013,00
Dirge 85330,80
Coercer 64880,13
Inquis 40601,34
Mystic 17444,13

Supreme Imperium Valdemar: 09:35 377567440 656639,00
Beastlord 327508,40
Monk 112142,70
Dirge 91806,13
Coercer 56439,35
Inquis 38419,60
Mystic 30322,90

amyglyn · Jan 21, 2012

Maybe beastlord was feared for a bit on spare rib?

Anyway, I went in and tried your strat of just tryin to run up and burn the boss (2nd to last one in drunder x2). At first I wasn't successful, but I used blessings and such and took her out. I wasn't able to burn her down before the first group of adds got there. What I did was burned as hard as possible, then once adds were almost there, hit blade dance, lol. Got power drained to nothing at the end but channeled focus was good enough to finish her off. Annoying that you still hafta kill the two adds before you win, though. I almost didn't make it. I had both healers in offensive stance for the fight.

Final boss (Queen V) went much smoother. Wiped once. No blessings or miracles used. Being real tired, it dawned on me to switch the healers to heal stance...durr

. Cycled cooldowns on the guard to stay alive and held aggro as best I could, but there was usually an add running rampant, but meh--Guard death save is handy. lol. Did have one of my DPS die, but that was it. Having the tribunal 20% dmg taken gets healed blessing up for this fight would probably decrease the difficulty a ton.

Other real obnoxious thing for that fight, from a plate tank perspective, is that the mobs run around behind you constantly due to glitchy pathing...can stand agianst wall though I guess. Monk/bruiser would have a bit easier time I think (not to mention an easier time as they take less damage).

Orwak · Jan 21, 2012

amyglyn said:
Maybe beastlord was feared for a bit on spare rib?

Anyway, I went in and tried your strat of just tryin to run up and burn the boss (2nd to last one in drunder x2). At first I wasn't successful, but I used blessings and such and took her out. I wasn't able to burn her down before the first group of adds got there. What I did was burned as hard as possible, then once adds were almost there, hit blade dance, lol. Got power drained to nothing at the end but channeled focus was good enough to finish her off. Annoying that you still hafta kill the two adds before you win, though. I almost didn't make it. I had both healers in offensive stance for the fight.

Final boss (Queen V) went much smoother. Wiped once. No blessings or miracles used. Being real tired, it dawned on me to switch the healers to heal stance...durr . Cycled cooldowns on the guard to stay alive and held aggro as best I could, but there was usually an add running rampant, but meh--Guard death save is handy. lol. Did have one of my DPS die, but that was it. Having the tribunal 20% dmg taken gets healed blessing up for this fight would probably decrease the difficulty a ton.

Other real obnoxious thing for that fight, from a plate tank perspective, is that the mobs run around behind you constantly due to glitchy pathing...can stand agianst wall though I guess. Monk/bruiser would have a bit easier time I think (not to mention an easier time as they take less damage).

Aye, might have been a fear, just that I didn't notice it.

For the queen, it was way more stable with the monk for me than the SK though some of it most likely was due to the dirge stoneskin as well. However, keeping stuff on the tank was a way bigger issue (no DM, no Sacrament, limited amount of AoE:s and less AE auto).

Ali · Jan 24, 2012

Started using a second beastlord today in spiritual over my assassasin to see how it would work. Gunnr could've been higher but had a bit of aggro issues with mob flipping back and forth. Tormax, bst1 died once and also had wrong profile set for advantages.

Primus Pilus Gunnr: (03:10) | 913440

beastlord1 358042
beastlord2 190377
monk 130844
dirge 114920
inq 65804
mystic 53454

Imperator Kolskeggr: (04:08) | 901104

beastlord1 343949
beastlord2 191043
monk 151595
dirge 110454
inq 62686
mystic 41379

Arch-Magistor Modrfrost: (05:13) | 648614

beastlord1 245152
beastlord2 158352
monk 106297
dirge 66151
inq 41563
mystic 31100

Legatus Prime Mikill: (06:26) | 466755

beastlord1 156645
beastlord2 107498
monk 96459
dirge 55209
inq 36291
mystic 14653

King Tormax: (12:38) | 608532

beastlord1 241785
beastlord2 129609
monk 96651
dirge 72302
inq 42277
mystic 25907

Ali · Jan 25, 2012

Kraytocs. Eireen and Kraytoc were kind of messy today.

Iilatus Frostbeard: (01:59) | 924072

beastlord1 352317
beastlord2 230642
monk 133434
dirge 102963
inq 69584
mystic 35133

Kreegar Krikneck: (03:52) | 823003

beastlord1 332300
beastlord2 175929
monk 139089
dirge 93264
inq 59341
mystic 23079

Taaltak the Mighty: (03:22) | 751189

beastlord1 283367
beastlord2 185766
monk 133455
dirge 78193
inq 49589
mystic 20821

Eirreen the Broken: (04:35) | 566074

beastlord1 206479
assassin 126443
dirge 84866
monk 74020
inq 42174
mystic 32093

Kraytoc Killingfrost: (04:47) | 561432

beastlord1 223705
beastlord2 151422
monk 87880
dirge 61989
inq 22042
mystic 14394

Ali · Jan 27, 2012

Foundations, aggro issues hurting my dps >.<

Prime-Cornicen Munderrad: (05:34) | 853183

beastlord1 348705
beastlord2 202565
monk 121213
dirge 94607
inq 53124
mystic 32970

Prime-Curator Undr: (05:41) | 829246

beastlord1 315160
beastlord2 205131
monk 107618
dirge 104148
inq 61341
mystic 35849

Proto-Exarch Finnrdag: (06:36) | 623037

beastlord1 254903
beastlord2 156170
monk 84895
dirge 75300
inq 40586
mystic 11184

Supreme Imperium Valdemar: (06:28) | 789831

beastlord1 335086
beastlord2 164080
monk 123456
dirge 92001
inq 51528
mystic 23680

Ali · Jan 28, 2012

Throne and Foundations tonight, went ok.

Primus Pilus Gunnr: (02:46) | 1037540
beastlord1 392657
beastlord2 257916
monk 144210
dirge 123319
inq 71664
mystic 47774

Imperator Kolskeggr: (04:41) | 969765
beastlord1 377242
beastlord2 199617
monk 165980
dirge 110170
inq 68102
mystic 48653

Arch-Magistor Modrfrost: (04:36) | 719041
beastlord1 278364
beastlord2 158099
monk 123815
dirge 74111
inq 49297
mystic 35355

Legatus Prime Mikill: (06:24) | 473685
beastlord1 162185
monk 96769
beastlord2 95652
dirge 64211
inq 37518
mystic 17350

King Tormax: (11:09) | 645461
beastlord1 258928
beastlord2 140584
monk 100490
dirge 75346
inq 43766
mystic 26347

Prime-Cornicen Munderrad: (05:44) | 850096
beastlord1 324722
beastlord2 204229
monk 128851
dirge 98638
inq 58191
mystic 35464

Prime-Curator Undr: (05:11) | 903492
beastlord1 339448
beastlord2 228604
monk 119086
dirge 105373
inq 63727
mystic 47256

Proto-Exarch Finnrdag: (06:23) | 612649
beastlord1 241854
beastlord2 152252
monk 90519
dirge 71509
inq 41888
mystic 14627

Supreme Imperium Valdemar: (06:19) | 829904
beastlord1 342573
beastlord2 172657
monk 137892
dirge 87595
inq 54406
mystic 34781

Orwak · Jan 28, 2012

Nice parses indeed. It's almost tempting to roll another BL, but screw doing the BL epic quest once again!

bjcasey · Jan 28, 2012

Maybe I missed it, but what kind of gear do you have Ali?

Ali · Jan 28, 2012

Orwak said:
Nice parses indeed. It's almost tempting to roll another BL, but screw doing the BL epic quest once again!

Right now it's about a wash on using 2nd bst or sin, although when able to tweak stuff a bit more with bot dps should jump up quite a bit. Second time through epic wasn't bad, only took a few hours to run through it.

bjcasey said:
Maybe I missed it, but what kind of gear do you have Ali?

beastlords are in em gear, dirge/inq in mix of em/some hm, monk/mystic in hm gear.

Orwak · Jan 29, 2012

At last I could be arsed to pull Eireen again, this time I even killed it! Wasn't a smooth kill, so the parse sucks but heck ... Posting it so that Ali has something to laugh at.

Iilatus Frostbeard: 03:45 172582395 767032,90
Beastlord 374681,00
Monk 132134,10
Dirge 102317,20
Coercer 68596,81
Inquis 51379,91
Mystic 37923,85

Taaltak the Mighty: 02:49 152277100 901047,90
Beastlord 446714,80
Monk 164425,70
Dirge 114986,60
Coercer 76001,91
Inquis 52757,14
Mystic 46161,76

Eirreen the Broken: 09:44 211313972 361839,00
Beastlord 157342,50
Monk 66235,94
Dirge 58862,95
Coercer 40270,30
Inquis 25635,88
Mystic 13491,43

Kraytoc Killingfrost: 04:00 154966833 645695,10
Beastlord 315633,30
Monk 110946,90
Dirge 95170,97
Coercer 63487,68
Inquis 39717,82
Mystic 20738,49

Kevinshp · Jan 29, 2012

Ali said:
Right now it's about a wash on using 2nd bst or sin, although when able to tweak stuff a bit more with bot dps should jump up quite a bit. Second time through epic wasn't bad, only took a few hours to run through it.

beastlords are in em gear, dirge/inq in mix of em/some hm, monk/mystic in hm gear.

not sure what the hell i'm doing wrong maybe its just I don't have epic yet almost done with quest should have them tomorrow. Mine is only doing 60 to 80k.
he has em hat, shoulders and forarms. HM hands and throwing weapon. em and some dunder and hm idol heroic jewlery. Hm idol BP and HM weapons 320 AA

using your latest setup. one thing i do notice is it takes him a bit of time to get to savagery 6 and when he does it drops to 5 fast.

Ali · Jan 29, 2012

Starting at 0 savagery it takes about 30 seconds to get up to 6, depending on weakness procs. There's no way of getting around the time it takes to build savagery. Once it hits 6, a primal will be used and that drops you back to 5, next ca/advantage or two should put you back at 6 and use next primal, etc. The bot is pretty good at that from what I've seen. If you're only seeing 60-80k from my profile, you have something messed up on your end.

Orwak · Jan 30, 2012

New Throne run. Still miles behind Ali of course, but personally best times so far I think. Can't wrap my head around what the heck I should do about my coercer to bump its DPS up ...

Primus Pilus Gunnr: 03:22 177726277 879833,10
Beastlord 431151,10
Monk 152079,10
Dirge 125682,30
Coercer 79296,73
Inquis 61183,60
Mystic 30440,32

Imperator Kolskeggr: 06:46 332796602 819696,10
Beastlord 404134,70
Monk 141900,80
Dirge 109308,10
Coercer 73060,73
Inquis 58506,73
Mystic 32785,02

Legatus Prime Mikill: 05:05 183084258 600276,30
Beastlord 249753,90
Monk 129976,80
Dirge 77592,66
Coercer 69467,70
Inquis 44410,00
Mystic 29075,18

Arch-Magistor Modrfrost: 05:07 185192210 603231,90
Beastlord 301518,20
Monk 113576,20
Dirge 74115,90
Coercer 52577,37
Inquis 37861,60
Mystic 23582,63

King Tormax: 14:14 475017376 556226,40
Beastlord 246667,30
Monk 113551,40
Dirge 77550,74
Coercer 59509,27
Mystic 31075,05
Inquis 27872,66

bjcasey · Jan 30, 2012

Orwak said:
New Throne run. Still miles behind Ali of course, but personally best times so far I think. Can't wrap my head around what the heck I should do about my coercer to bump its DPS up ...

Primus Pilus Gunnr: 03:22 177726277 879833,10
Beastlord 431151,10
Monk 152079,10
Dirge 125682,30
Coercer 79296,73
Inquis 61183,60
Mystic 30440,32

Imperator Kolskeggr: 06:46 332796602 819696,10
Beastlord 404134,70
Monk 141900,80
Dirge 109308,10
Coercer 73060,73
Inquis 58506,73
Mystic 32785,02

Legatus Prime Mikill: 05:05 183084258 600276,30
Beastlord 249753,90
Monk 129976,80
Dirge 77592,66
Coercer 69467,70
Inquis 44410,00
Mystic 29075,18

Arch-Magistor Modrfrost: 05:07 185192210 603231,90
Beastlord 301518,20
Monk 113576,20
Dirge 74115,90
Coercer 52577,37
Inquis 37861,60
Mystic 23582,63

King Tormax: 14:14 475017376 556226,40
Beastlord 246667,30
Monk 113551,40
Dirge 77550,74
Coercer 59509,27
Mystic 31075,05
Inquis 27872,66

Are you using the generic coecer profile that comes with OgreBot?

Orwak · Jan 30, 2012

bjcasey said:
Are you using the generic coecer profile that comes with OgreBot?

At first I used a slightly extended one, but this one is a totally rebuilt one with a lot of thoughts behind. Haven't really followed it "in action" though, so I'll have to do that one of those days to see if there any optimizations to do in the cast orders.

bjcasey · Jan 30, 2012

Orwak said:
At first I used a slightly extended one, but this one is a totally rebuilt one with a lot of thoughts behind. Haven't really followed it "in action" though, so I'll have to do that one of those days to see if there any optimizations to do in the cast orders.

What kind of gear is you dirge in? Have you tweaked his profile much? If so, could you share it please?

Orwak · Jan 30, 2012

bjcasey said:
What kind of gear is you dirge in? Have you tweaked his profile much? If so, could you share it please?

Mostly EM-gear. A few HM armour pieces and some x2 jewelry. Not much tweaking done really, just added some missing CA:s I think.

bjcasey · Jan 30, 2012

Orwak said:
Mostly EM-gear. A few HM armour pieces and some x2 jewelry. Not much tweaking done really, just added some missing CA:s I think.

Like what? Here's a parse from my crew and they seem to match your gear.

(06:00) Primus Pilus Gunnr: 503357
Assassin | 35% | 179038 | 0%
Coercer | 21% | 108252 | 0%
Guardian | 18% | 90787 | 0%
Dirge | 15% | 80086 | 0%
Mystic | 6% | 31727 | 92%
Inquisitor | 2% | 13467 | 7%

Compared with your parse:

Primus Pilus Gunnr: 03:22 177726277 879833,10
Beastlord 431151,10
Monk 152079,10
Dirge 125682,30
Coercer 79296,73
Inquis 61183,60
Mystic 30440,32

Orwak · Jan 31, 2012

bjcasey said:
Like what? Here's a parse from my crew and they seem to match your gear.

(06:00) Primus Pilus Gunnr: 503357
Assassin | 35% | 179038 | 0%
Coercer | 21% | 108252 | 0%
Guardian | 18% | 90787 | 0%
Dirge | 15% | 80086 | 0%
Mystic | 6% | 31727 | 92%
Inquisitor | 2% | 13467 | 7%

Compared with your parse:

Primus Pilus Gunnr: 03:22 177726277 879833,10
Beastlord 431151,10
Monk 152079,10
Dirge 125682,30
Coercer 79296,73
Inquis 61183,60
Mystic 30440,32

Can't recall which ones at the moment, but I have a feeling that Rhythm Blade (or whatever it's called) was one.

Orwak · Feb 3, 2012

Throne again, not sure why the monk didn't autoattack as it should on Mikill, but lost quite a lot there. Won't even post the Tormax parse as it would just be embarassing, let's just say it was the worst kill so far on my behalf ... by far!

Primus Pilus Gunnr: 03:01 173270869 957297,60
Beastlord 473107,90
Monk 152538,20
Dirge 130825,90
Coercer 81804,44
Inquis 72624,53
Mystic 46396,66

Imperator Kolskeggr: 06:26 329617139 853930,40
Beastlord 432124,20
Monk 154486,40
Dirge 107445,10
Coercer 69925,15
Inquis 58763,70
Mystic 31185,91

Legatus Prime Mikill: 05:20 179754203 561731,90
Beastlord 281925,00
Dirge 72873,15
Coercer 67009,23
Monk 66439,80
Inquis 43360,63
Mystic 30124,03

Arch-Magistor Modrfrost: 05:14 216180783 688473,80
Beastlord 340336,30
Monk 122914,50
Dirge 85901,43
Coercer 62101,53
Inquis 43230,71
Mystic 33989,30

Kevinshp · Feb 3, 2012

Orwak said:
Throne again, not sure why the monk didn't autoattack as it should on Mikill, but lost quite a lot there. Won't even post the Tormax parse as it would just be embarassing, let's just say it was the worst kill so far on my behalf ... by far!

Primus Pilus Gunnr: 03:01 173270869 957297,60
Beastlord 473107,90
Monk 152538,20
Dirge 130825,90
Coercer 81804,44
Inquis 72624,53
Mystic 46396,66

Imperator Kolskeggr: 06:26 329617139 853930,40
Beastlord 432124,20
Monk 154486,40
Dirge 107445,10
Coercer 69925,15
Inquis 58763,70
Mystic 31185,91

Legatus Prime Mikill: 05:20 179754203 561731,90
Beastlord 281925,00
Dirge 72873,15
Coercer 67009,23
Monk 66439,80
Inquis 43360,63
Mystic 30124,03

Arch-Magistor Modrfrost: 05:14 216180783 688473,80
Beastlord 340336,30
Monk 122914,50
Dirge 85901,43
Coercer 62101,53
Inquis 43230,71
Mystic 33989,30

nice parses even inquz not bad at all

canoppener · Feb 6, 2012

Kevinshp · Feb 6, 2012

canoppener said:
Silly Beastlords with Brawlers for CM.

Gunnr. Would have been higher but the stupid warrior add fucked my dps.
(02:51) 1047549
Beastlord | 335k
Brigand | 229k
Guardian | 154k
Dirge | 133k
Illusionist | 133k
Inquisitor | 64k

Kolskeggr
(03:40) 1082996
Beastlord | 387k
Brigand | 236k
Guardian | 154k
Dirge | 154k
Illusionist | 92k
Inquisitor | 61

Modrfrost
(03:12) 961065
Beastlord | 319
Brigand | 219
Guardian | 156
Dirge | 106
Illusionist | 100
Inquisitor | 50
Defiler in G2 for Curse Cure | 11

Tormax
(06:45) 851265
Beastlord | 290
Brigand | 193
Guardian | 120
Dirge | 117
Illusionist | 84
Inquisitor | 48

Nice parses copper still not getting those numbers from my Bl yet he did hit 250 today but that’s his highest thus far. I see your using only an inquz your doing these raid zones with just one healer? if so I would love to see your inquz setup. aslo would like to take a peek at your guards although my guard is geared for HM drunder so he has all CM adorns on him so that could also be a reason.

Orwak · Feb 7, 2012

canoppener said:
Silly Beastlords with Brawlers for CM.

Gunnr. Would have been higher but the stupid warrior add fucked my dps.
(02:51) 1047549
Beastlord | 335k
Brigand | 229k
Guardian | 154k
Dirge | 133k
Illusionist | 133k
Inquisitor | 64k

Kolskeggr
(03:40) 1082996
Beastlord | 387k
Brigand | 236k
Guardian | 154k
Dirge | 154k
Illusionist | 92k
Inquisitor | 61

Modrfrost
(03:12) 961065
Beastlord | 319
Brigand | 219
Guardian | 156
Dirge | 106
Illusionist | 100
Inquisitor | 50
Defiler in G2 for Curse Cure | 11

Tormax
(06:45) 851265
Beastlord | 290
Brigand | 193
Guardian | 120
Dirge | 117
Illusionist | 84
Inquisitor | 48

Nice ones! I wish I could use my illu with my BL, but there is no way in hell I could get that working aggro-wise without rolling a pally or transfering my guard. :-/ Have to sort a DPS class one of those days as well on my mystic account ...

Primus Pilus Gunnr: 03:05 185892633 1004825,00
Beastlord 486850,90
Monk 151038,40
Dirge 128134,50
Coercer 112330,50
Inquis 85211,53
Mystic 41259,19

Imperator Kolskeggr: 06:26 334408552 866343,40
Beastlord 426726,30
Monk 156299,30
Dirge 108139,00
Coercer 73304,82
Inquis 68867,23
Mystic 33006,70

Legatus Prime Mikill: 04:47 183054021 637818,90
Beastlord 266657,30
Monk 134415,80
Coercer 77337,55
Dirge 74609,63
Inquis 56146,65
Mystic 28651,89

Arch-Magistor Modrfrost: 05:00 203289097 677630,30
Beastlord 342407,80
Monk 122828,70
Dirge 76431,11
Coercer 58543,58
Inquis 46766,59
Mystic 30652,52

King Tormax: 11:13 433725212 644465,40
Beastlord 306763,00
Monk 130542,60
Dirge 73762,15
Coercer 63755,77
Inquis 38243,55
Mystic 31398,34

mistahmikey · Feb 7, 2012

Guys...

These parses are, of course, incredibly impressive. But what would really help us parse-challenged folks to do better than just drool is to get your AA setups and Ogre setups for your toons. So please - share the wealth a bit and give us this information so we too can understand how to parse like champions

Thanks.

canoppener · Feb 7, 2012

In his case it is gear + using CM when the BL does it's primal chain.

Orwak · Feb 7, 2012

canoppener said:
In his case it is gear + using CM when the BL does it's primal chain.

Not timing CM (stupidly enough), good guess though. The gear is a factor, won't deny that.

mistahmikey:

About "sharing the wealth" ... Scroll back a couple of posts and I've pretty much given away my BL and Monk setup. Now, I don't mind sharing setups I'm satisfied with to people who know how to play their toons. Thing is, if you can, you can do the setup yourself, along with knowing how to spec. In my eyes - now this is my point of view and I don't say it's "right" and everything else is "wrong" - OgreBot is a tool to do shit simultaneously on several toons(or repetative stuff), not a tool to help you play better.

All my AA-specs can (more or less) be found on eq2flames (each of the class boards) and most of my cast priorities can be calculated with a simple excel sheet. The gear, it's out there if you can kill the mobs.

Back to the "being satisfied" part ... Once I'm satisfied with my setups - i.e. when I don't change stuff every other day - I'll happily share them all. However, I'm still fairly new to Ogre and I change my profiles fairly often still. If I'll "release" a setup today, I'll have to release another one in a week from now when I've changed half of it, and I neither have the time, nor the wish, to clean up the files every other day.

Until then, feel free to post some parses yourself along with a description of your gear and we'll see if you're totally out of line or not, plus you have something to actually compare with yourself once you start juggling your own setups.

Either way, this thread was made for comparing parses and that's what we do.

canoppener · Feb 7, 2012

I'd like to see a breakdown for your beastlord on like Gunnr then if you don't mind. Seems a little high if it isn't lining up with CM. Granted I don't have a Mystic and all the associated buffs, and your gear is probably better then mine, but 50% higher seems off. Especially when my other toons are the same/higher.

Orwak · Feb 7, 2012

canoppener said:
I'd like to see a breakdown for your beastlord on like Gunnr then if you don't mind. Seems a little high if it isn't lining up with CM. Granted I don't have a Mystic and all the associated buffs, and your gear is probably better then mine, but 50% higher seems off. Especially when my other toons are the same/higher.

Of course, last Gunnr inc.

Edit: Crap, just noticed I haven't respecced the Warder AA:s since I respecced at some point ...

bjcasey · Feb 8, 2012

Orwak and Cannoppenr could I see a breakdown of your dirge parses please? I've been tweaking mine and while parsing on a dummy I've managed to increase his dps by about 5-6k. But I'd be curious to see the percentages of different spells.

Orwak · Feb 8, 2012

bjcasey said:
Orwak and Cannoppenr could I see a breakdown of your dirge parses please? I've been tweaking mine and while parsing on a dummy I've managed to increase his dps by about 5-6k. But I'd be curious to see the percentages of different spells.

Mine, same kill as the BL above.

Ali · Feb 8, 2012

Switched mystic to dps spec instead of pure heals. Next goal < 2 min gunnr. Tormax went pretty bad tonight. I might try only one healer soon~

Primus Pilus Gunnr: (02:26) | 1162309
beastlord1 394506
beastlord2 271409
mystic 141190
monk 139771
dirge 120793
inq 72289

Imperator Kolskeggr: (04:08) | 989040
beastlord1 338418
beastlord2 231677
monk 174867
dirge 103592
mystic 83913
inq 56573

Arch-Magistor Modrfrost: (03:41) | 840102
beastlord1 320622
beastlord2 203767
monk 112199
dirge 78918
mystic 72313
inq 52284

Legatus Prime Mikill: (05:32) | 541837
beastlord1 182803
beastlord2 119095
monk 104815
dirge 70133
mystic 35331
inq 29659

King Tormax: (09:48) | 690677
beastlord1 256300
beastlord2 150733
monk 105969
dirge 76366
mystic 61949
inq 39360

bjcasey · Feb 8, 2012

So I'm gimp enough that I need to 12 bot it to beat these encounters. Group A is Guard, INQ, MYS, COE, ASS, DRG and is fully EM geared with 3-5 HM pieces. Group B I just started and is in the process of getting they fabled epics done and gearing out. They have about half EM raid gear. Their classes are MNK, INQ, MYS, COE, CONJ, TROUB (Will eventually swap in a wizzy for the conj once the wizzy gets more gear). I'd reallly appreciate some help on getting my dirge to parse better. I played with is casting order today, but after 3 hours of parsing dummies his dps only went up marginally.

(05:39) Primus Pilus Gunnr: 622570
Ass | 28% | 175108 | 0%
Guard | 14% | 87711 | 0%
Coe1 | 12% | 79094 | 0%
Dirge | 10% | 63121 | 0%
Coe2 | 7% | 49803 | 0%
Mnk | 7% | 48585 | 0%
Troub | 6% | 41950 | 0%
Mys1 | 5% | 33518 | 40%
Mys2 | 2% | 17247 | 37%
Inq1 | 2% | 13434 | 6%
Inq2 | 2% | 12998 | 14%

(06:06) Legatus Prime Mikill: 494340
Ass | 26% | 129577 | 0%
Coe1 | 18% | 92496 | 0%
Guard | 14% | 72503 | 0%
Coe2 | 9% | 48643 | 0%
DRG | 9% | 45439 | 1%
MNK | 6% | 34429 | 0%
Troub | 4% | 22744 | 0%
MYS1 | 4% | 21139 | 64%
MYS2| 2% | 10620 | 21%
INQ2 | 1% | 9043 | 5%
INQ1 | 1% | 7706 | 6%

(10:06) Imperator Kolskeggr: 690926
Ass | 22% | 158375 | 0%
COE1 | 13% | 95365 | 0%
Conj | 12% | 83844 | 3%
Guard | 11% | 79910 | 0%
DRG | 8% | 58067 | 0%
MNK | 7% | 52704 | 0%
COE2 | 6% | 47078 | 0%
Troub | 5% | 37582 | 0%
MYS1 | 4% | 33647 | 43%
MYS2 | 2% | 16709 | 35%
INQ1 | 2% | 14278 | 2%
INQ2 | 1% | 13367 | 14%

(05:49) Arch-Magistor Modrfrost: 615916
Ass | 23% | 143508 | 0%
Conj | 13% | 85520 | 2%
COE1 | 12% | 75945 | 0%
Guard | 12% | 75213 | 0%
DRG | 8% | 51900 | 0%
MNK | 7% | 45165 | 0%
COE2 | 7% | 45105 | 0%
Troub | 4% | 30782 | 0%
MYS1 | 4% | 29335 | 52%
MYS2 | 2% | 14022 | 28%
INQ1 | 1% | 10985 | 4%
INQ2 | 1% | 8435 | 11%

Orwak · Feb 14, 2012

Primus Pilus Gunnr: 02:55 176190962 1006806,00
Beastlord 496919,80
Monk 161960,10
Dirge 132786,40
Coercer 85253,77
Inquis 82461,43
Mystic 47424,10

Imperator Kolskeggr: 05:28 296198888 903045,40
Beastlord 463636,20
Monk 158008,50
Dirge 103010,80
Coercer 78040,18
Inquis 67992,16
Mystic 32357,52

Legatus Prime Mikill: 05:02 184677720 611515,60
Beastlord 253120,60
Monk 134228,50
Coercer 72340,06
Dirge 68032,51
Inquis 51442,10
Mystic 32351,90

Arch-Magistor Modrfrost: 04:58 205919596 691005,40
Beastlord 345745,60
Monk 124784,40
Dirge 82505,53
Coercer 63890,07
Inquis 56369,06
Mystic 17710,69

King Tormax: 08:58 397169432 738233,10
Beastlord 376673,20
Monk 137111,10
Dirge 93735,16
Coercer 64682,91
Inquis 49810,96
Mystic 16219,81

I really have to look into the coercer business ... and of course remember to get pets!

Ali · Feb 14, 2012

Did you adjust your profile for the beastlord changes from yesterday, or is that still old profile?

Orwak · Feb 14, 2012

Ali said:
Did you adjust your profile for the beastlord changes from yesterday, or is that still old profile?

Still the old one, haven't managed to get the chains to work the way I want to yet.

Orwak · Apr 12, 2012

I was bored, so took a run through Throne (haven't done so in since February or so I think). About time this old thread got some necromantic love ...

Noticed after the run that I had the WoE wrist on my monk from my Munzok run last night, but that shouldn't do too much DPS wise. Cut out Mikill as I got an add that messed up the pull.

Primus Pilus Gunnr: 02:21 173447954 1230127,00
Beastlord 660894,80
Monk 182590,20
Dirge 133546,00
Coercer 116650,70
Inquis 89000,65
Mystic 47444,98

Imperator Kolskeggr: 04:01 266398578 1105388,00
Beastlord 581342,50
Monk 189941,00
Dirge 119281,70
Coercer 86778,83
Inquis 79622,89
Mystic 48421,33

Arch-Magistor Modrfrost: 03:23 188192361 927055,90
Beastlord 530484,40
Monk 147143,20
Dirge 92292,97
Coercer 66223,54
Inquis 48712,42
Mystic 42199,39

King Tormax: 06:21 346667244 909887,80
Beastlord 486075,80
Monk 141359,80
Dirge 104053,20
Coercer 74963,73
Inquis 57347,07
Mystic 46088,19

mistahmikey · Apr 14, 2012

Be a hero and update the Ogre wiki with your AA setups and profiles for these toons. Or not

Kannkor · Apr 14, 2012

mistahmikey said:
Be a hero and update the Ogre wiki with your AA setups and profiles for these toons. Or not

*Most* different profiles hardly have a dps difference. Now, there are some exceptions to this statement.

He could give you his exact AA set up and profile, and you still wouldn't come close to his numbers, you don't have his gear. Many people that frequently visit here and post parses, are well aware of how to share profiles if they choose (and/or when they are ready), there isn't really a big need to ask them for them. (I don't want to discourage people from posting).

If people did want, give a general level of gear along with your DPS parse posts, so we have an idea of where you're coming from. IE: Full HM drunder, 1/2 HM drunder 1/2 DoV HM. etc.

mistahmikey · Apr 15, 2012

Well of course gear matters greatly. I am not looking for a profile and AA setup that will guarantee I get numbers like Orwak, or anyone else, for that matter. I am mostly interested in seeing the setups and cast orders for toons I have never played manually, and thus have only guessed at what might work. Its helpful to compare what I have with what someone who obviously knows alot more about it than I do has done and perhaps discover things that might make my toons better - even in their comparatively pathetically undergeared state

Herculezz · Apr 16, 2012

Orwak said:
I was bored, so took a run through Throne (haven't done so in since February or so I think). About time this old thread got some necromantic love ...

Noticed after the run that I had the WoE wrist on my monk from my Munzok run last night, but that shouldn't do too much DPS wise. Cut out Mikill as I got an add that messed up the pull.

Primus Pilus Gunnr: 02:21 173447954 1230127,00
Beastlord 660894,80
Monk 182590,20
Dirge 133546,00
Coercer 116650,70
Inquis 89000,65
Mystic 47444,98

Imperator Kolskeggr: 04:01 266398578 1105388,00
Beastlord 581342,50
Monk 189941,00
Dirge 119281,70
Coercer 86778,83
Inquis 79622,89
Mystic 48421,33

Arch-Magistor Modrfrost: 03:23 188192361 927055,90
Beastlord 530484,40
Monk 147143,20
Dirge 92292,97
Coercer 66223,54
Inquis 48712,42
Mystic 42199,39

King Tormax: 06:21 346667244 909887,80
Beastlord 486075,80
Monk 141359,80
Dirge 104053,20
Coercer 74963,73
Inquis 57347,07
Mystic 46088,19

Those are some insane numbers yo, GJ imagine having 4 groups like that haha, thats be some nice parsing

, I agree with kannkor, lets hear what kind of gear your rollin in!!

Orwak · Apr 16, 2012

It's already been mentioned a while back, but it's been slightly updated since I guess, so ... Here's a rough estimate:

Monk: Mostly HMD (Hard Mode Drunder).
Beastlord: Mostly HMD.
Dirge: Mostly EM, some HM pieces.
Coercer: EM, very few HM pieces.
Inquis: Mostly HM, a few EM pieces.
Mystic: Mostly EM, a few HM pieces.

blackee · May 10, 2012

I am looking for a profile for a troub. Specifically, one that has a good RO/VC chain in it.

How is everyone else rocking the RO/VC? I need to dust off my bard.

insanitywiz · May 12, 2012

RO/VC is so last year. ChainsRbad, mmmkay.

Poulet · May 29, 2012

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