Need Help Increasing Dps..

[blammo]

Guys, I need some help. .I'm doing everything I know, and I'm coming up short on DPS.

Regular Group: (ZW in heroic zone)
Fighter (4-10M)
Cleric: (>2M healing, 2-3M DPS)
Myst or Swash (2-3M) or (10-15M)
Enchanter (10-15M)
Bard (10-15M)
Mage or Predator (10-15M)

-- all 5 purples done (obol/truespirit)
- all green adorns maxed
- all white adorns done
- all invigorated heroic armor or better
- all have I/II good cloaks
- all have at least 1 piece of 'barrage' jewelery
- healers have at least 1 "shroud of the sea' piece
- all have amplifying pieces on
- all weapons mod'd for class specific damage (magic, poison, heat, etc)
- all classes sitting at around 2k potency at idle, push over 3k in combat.
- average non-tank health - 2M
- average resists - 210k
- all mages are at 100% DC
- all scouts are at 100% flurry 100% AE auto
- fighters are at 100% AE auto
- zero access to ToT x4 raid gear
- AA profiles copied from T1 raiders for most toons
- ogre cast stacks moderately tuned from stock

This adds up to somewhere between 35M-60M DPS depending on the zone, fights etc. We can clear any of the heroic zones EXCEPT Master's Chosen. in MC we can survive any of the fights that have a timer until the 10 minute mark when the mob gets tired of fighting and kills the group.

Based on what I read, Servitor takes about 120-150M to beat inside 10M. /LFG this weekend was looking for DPS for MC, 40M sustained minimum.

What am I missing? how in the world are people sustaining that kind of DPS from a single toon, much less getting to 150M dps from their groups?

 

[rawfle]

 

[Cheesy]

Guys, I need some help. .I'm doing everything I know, and I'm coming up short on DPS.

Regular Group: (ZW in heroic zone)
Fighter (4-10M)
Cleric: (>2M healing, 2-3M DPS)
Myst or Swash (2-3M) or (10-15M)
Enchanter (10-15M)
Bard (10-15M)
Mage or Predator (10-15M)

-- all 5 purples done - Which ones? Are you running Winds/Truespirits x6 for example?
- all green adorns maxed
- all white adorns done
- all invigorated heroic armor or better - Reforged properly? Nearly every class should have a large amount of abil mod by now.
- all have I/II good cloaks
- all have at least 1 piece of 'barrage' jewelery
- healers have at least 1 "shroud of the sea' piece - Ditch these, they are pretty crap. Aim for Practiced Procs or Static stats.
- all have amplifying pieces on - Ditch these, they are pretty crap. You wont get anywhere near the maximum amount in a group setting. Aim for Practiced Procs or Static stats.
- all scouts are at 100% flurry 100% AE auto - Don't sacrifice tons for 100% flurry. Especially on a DPS class.
- ogre cast stacks moderately tuned from stock - Guessing this is likely the problem overall.

This adds up to somewhere between 35M-60M DPS depending on the zone, fights etc. We can clear any of the heroic zones EXCEPT Master's Chosen. in MC we can survive any of the fights that have a timer until the 10 minute mark when the mob gets tired of fighting and kills the group.

Based on what I read, Servitor takes about 120-150M to beat inside 10M. /LFG this weekend was looking for DPS for MC, 40M sustained minimum.

What am I missing? how in the world are people sustaining that kind of DPS from a single toon, much less getting to 150M dps from their groups?

See some of the above in Red.

I'd reccomend doing an epic immortal dummy in the GH for 10 mins, and posting the ACT screenshot of inc damage on it. Should help to give an indicate to some degree of DPS.

 

[appleuser]

OK, full disclosure, I think I am a very average Ogrebotter I do nothing like the dps I see posted on the forums but I have given up worrying about it as I can kill everything I want to!

Based on what I read, Servitor takes about 120-150M to beat inside 10M. /LFG this weekend was looking for DPS for MC, 40M sustained minimum.

You don't need to do anywhere near that dps on Servitor. I just killed him as a test for you, and this was my dps

(05:44) Servitor of Yothshaval: 99207355 Ranger-Exploit Weakness-103516146
Ranger | 39876993
Dirge | 19441681
Coercer| 14994409
Zerk | 14421976
Defiler | 5258558
Inq| 5213738

Yes, I ran two healers, not cos I need to, but cos I am too lazy to switch out my swash for the inq just for the final fight, when I do need 2 heals. Shame your swash and mystic are on the same account, as I would have suggested run with just the mystic on this fight, and pop your swash in instead of cleric, as I dropped my Inq and put a swash in to beat it initially.

So, almost 6 mins, total gw dps of 99,207,355

I felt like I had hit a brick wall this this mob a few months ago too, one thing I did notice was that the dirge debuffs weren't being cast, nor verdict, so I made an mcp button for this fight:

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However, that said, your T1 does seems very low, especially if the examples you posted are from a regular heroic groupwide so you are using blues and not using singular focus.

I'm not sure what to suggest on that, as you seem to have all the stuff covered on your toons that you should have. I do know that last expac my dps was pretty terribad, until I upgraded my CPU and got much better fps. I literally saw my dps double. What kind of framerates are you getting?

 

[Eyedea]

ZW is a bad reference for dps output. I'd recommend doing what Cheesy suggested and get a couple of parses on the training dummies. I feel like DBG has all but told you what jewellery everybody should be wearing this xpac and yet 80% of people still think ME ME ME. That's a topic of another discussion. Its hard to say what, beyond the obvious that Cheesy has already pointed out, is the culprit. I suspect you've also copied some AA spec from one of the TOP WW guild *insert class here* and while it should give you an idea of where to spend points, with group/gear make up it could vary quite a bit... I'd like to know which class is wearing what purple/white/war runes and what tier. Also do you run temps/scrolls/potions/food/drink...

 

[blammo]

See some of the above in Red.

Thanks for all the feedback so far, clarified the purple adorns & AA profiles, will look for practiced/static instead.

As others have said, this expansion is all about +group pot/cb/etc, so i've tried to gear in that direction.

Will run a couple of 10-minute epicTD runs tonight, will post them here.

 

[blammo]

10 minute TD run, incoming as requested:

Pretty good over all, 72M dps

NAME					STARTTIME   DURATION  DAMAGE		  DAMAGE%  POWERDRAIN   ENCDPS		 ENCHPS		 DAMAGETAKEN	 DEATHS  CRITTYPES			
Predator			   xx:xx:06 PM  09:59	 14,068,927,148  31%	  0			23,487,357.51  0.00		   0			   0	   15.6%L - 4.7%F - 0.8%M
Bard				   xx:xx:07 PM  09:58	 11,452,674,284  25%	  24,140,698   19,119,656.57  426.31		 0			   0	   14.4%L - 3.6%F - 0.7%M
Enchanter			   xx:xx:07 PM  10:03	 10,663,323,518  23%	  134,349,283  17,801,875.66  0.00		   0			   0	   16.8%L - 4.3%F - 1.9%M
Fighter				   xx:xx:06 PM  10:01	 4,953,869,985   11%	  0			8,270,233.70   61.13		  0			   0	   15.2%L - 3.7%F - 0.7%M
Shaman				   xx:xx:07 PM  09:59	 2,319,683,526   5%	   0			3,872,593.53   11,598.83	  0			   0	   14.0%L - 4.2%F - 0.7%M
Cleric				   xx:xx:06 PM  09:57	 1,469,097,936   3%	   46,420,615   2,452,584.20   1,900.77	   0			   0	   17.0%L - 5.0%F - 1.9%M
training dummy		   xx:xx:12 PM  09:50	 0			   --	   0			0.00		   73,402,668.96  44,926,731,623  1	   -

TYPE						DAMAGE		  ENCDPS		 AVERAGE		MEDIAN	  MINHIT	  MAXHIT	  RESIST	HITS	SWINGS  TOHIT   CRIT%  CRITTYPES				
All						 44,926,731,623  75,002,890.86  1,862,016.00   1,125,383   13,669	  59,034,489  All	   24,128  24,152  99.90   91%	15.5%L - 4.3%F - 0.9%M
Early Advantage			 6,871,006,578   11,470,795.62  12,075,580.00  12,001,112  9,407,162   13,042,875  crushing  569	 569	 100.00  0%	 -						
zap						 2,659,415,034   4,439,757.99   1,490,704.00   1,388,853   294,748	 6,809,744   magic	 1,784   1,784   100.00  100%   16.1%L - 4.3%F - 1.4%M
Jester's Ruse			   2,453,822,877   4,096,532.35   4,691,822.00   4,373,402   2,073,851   16,463,135  magic	 523	 523	 100.00  100%   13.6%L - 4.0%F - 1.1%M
Dagger Storm				2,293,776,040   3,829,342.30   2,852,956.00   2,609,971   1,564,443   8,357,663   piercing  804	 804	 100.00  100%   14.4%L - 4.6%F - 0.6%M
pierce					  2,203,267,222   3,678,242.44   703,245.30	 584,301	 26,014	  4,811,033   piercing  3,133   3,142   99.71   100%   14.7%L - 4.0%F - 0.6%M
poison					  2,003,634,902   3,344,966.45   1,869,063.00   1,767,125   574,882	 7,167,572   poison	1,072   1,072   100.00  100%   15.2%L - 4.9%F - 0.7%M
disease					 1,987,648,983   3,318,278.77   1,869,849.00   1,818,131   334,699	 7,012,037   disease   1,063   1,063   100.00  100%   14.2%L - 4.0%F - 0.7%M
Victorious Concerto		 1,333,715,801   2,226,570.62   4,679,705.00   5,493,797   1,434,157   7,867,020   magic	 285	 285	 100.00  0%	 -						
Peace of Mind			   1,250,377,881   2,087,442.21   928,958.30	 879,407	 475,082	 3,185,632   mental	1,346   1,346   100.00  100%   17.3%L - 3.7%F - 1.0%M
crush					   1,010,895,691   1,687,638.88   732,002.70	 650,136	 126,636	 2,781,037   crushing  1,381   1,381   100.00  100%   15.1%L - 4.1%F - 0.8%M
Temporal Mimicry			1,008,487,341   1,683,618.27   5,634,008.00   3,438,964   674,040	 59,034,489  mental	179	 179	 100.00  0%	 -						
Molten Detonation		   951,511,598	 1,588,500.16   2,592,675.00   2,573,579   1,787,917   2,672,869   heat	  367	 367	 100.00  0%	 -						
Stampede					811,899,763	 1,355,425.31   1,883,758.00   1,737,226   1,010,601   5,906,072   crushing  431	 431	 100.00  100%   19.5%L - 5.1%F - 0.9%M
Exploit Weakness			791,669,901	 1,321,652.59   14,937,170.00  4,853,324   1,266,359   54,315,719  poison	53	  53	  100.00  100%   17.0%L - 5.7%F - 0.0%M
Caustic Poison			  742,912,128	 1,240,253.97   5,671,085.00   5,712,671   2,312,023   8,720,509   poison	131	 131	 100.00  0%	 -						
Erollisi's Heartseeker	  739,860,276	 1,235,159.06   1,284,480.00   1,197,919   576,408	 5,008,904   piercing  576	 576	 100.00  100%   16.5%L - 4.3%F - 1.0%M
Theorems					701,482,905	 1,171,089.99   2,598,085.00   2,383,277   1,843,380   7,102,257   mental	270	 270	 100.00  100%   19.3%L - 5.9%F - 1.1%M
Psychic Trauma			  700,226,319	 1,168,992.19   3,272,086.00   2,855,293   1,947,969   9,243,267   mental	214	 214	 100.00  100%   20.1%L - 6.5%F - 2.3%M
Blazing Weaponry			666,041,007	 1,111,921.55   2,250,139.00   2,093,724   1,220,860   7,951,562   heat	  296	 296	 100.00  100%   11.8%L - 3.0%F - 1.7%M
Unda Arcanus Spiritus	   632,673,311	 1,056,215.88   18,608,040.00  18,167,247  12,804,871  30,395,994  magic	 34	  34	  100.00  100%   8.8%L - 2.9%F - 0.0%M	
Phantasmal Shock			625,839,923	 1,044,807.88   3,596,781.00   3,270,852   1,586,660   15,211,469  mental	174	 174	 100.00  100%   13.2%L - 4.6%F - 1.7%M
Prismatic Shock			 623,451,551	 1,040,820.62   2,283,705.00   2,122,275   1,582,323   7,114,422   mental	273	 273	 100.00  100%   19.0%L - 4.8%F - 1.8%M
Chromatic Shower			554,371,071	 925,494.28	 1,024,716.00   907,803	 679,502	 2,960,138   mental	541	 541	 100.00  100%   12.0%L - 3.5%F - 2.8%M
Primordial Cloak of Flames  543,775,118	 907,804.87	 5,664,324.00   4,006,195   673,966	 9,361,699   heat	  96	  96	  100.00  0%	 -						
Blackanvil Strike		   480,328,794	 801,884.46	 4,070,583.00   4,101,579   3,375,004   4,101,579   divine	118	 118	 100.00  0%	 -						
confound					424,673,779	 708,971.25	 374,491.90	 392,831	 23,557	  1,965,689   mental	1,134   1,149   98.69   100%   18.2%L - 5.0%F - 0.5%M
Evade					   405,702,280	 677,299.30	 3,938,857.00   3,622,052   2,056,443   12,476,530  piercing  103	 103	 100.00  100%   17.5%L - 2.9%F - 1.0%M
Past's Vengeance			401,079,172	 669,581.26	 588,092.60	 560,092	 347,094	 1,837,747   magic	 682	 682	 100.00  100%   15.4%L - 3.7%F - 0.6%M
Strike of Faith			 343,143,585	 572,860.74	 1,114,103.00   1,020,603   453,453	 3,791,796   divine	308	 308	 100.00  100%   14.0%L - 7.1%F - 1.3%M
Bloody Reminder			 324,208,721	 541,249.95	 1,013,152.00   999,893	 377,431	 2,541,136   poison	320	 320	 100.00  100%   18.1%L - 6.3%F - 0.0%M
Fatal Combination		   320,597,359	 535,220.97	 11,449,910.00  11,855,932  4,949,346   23,566,207  poison	28	  28	  100.00  100%   17.9%L - 3.6%F - 0.0%M
Precise Note				306,634,687	 511,911.00	 723,195.00	 690,379	 410,607	 2,197,891   mental	424	 424	 100.00  100%   16.0%L - 4.2%F - 1.4%M
Discombobulate VI		   303,402,897	 506,515.69	 3,034,029.00   3,057,149   2,094,624   3,057,149   mental	100	 100	 100.00  0%	 -						
Makeshift Arrow			 302,690,488	 505,326.36	 934,229.90	 906,690	 349,340	 2,890,221   piercing  324	 324	 100.00  100%   16.0%L - 2.5%F - 1.2%M
Perfect Shrill			  290,103,808	 484,313.54	 4,463,136.00   4,171,059   2,842,089   11,645,345  mental	65	  65	  100.00  100%   10.8%L - 4.6%F - 1.5%M
Headache					273,029,445	 455,808.76	 4,550,491.00   4,383,039   1,667,463   12,420,443  mental	60	  60	  100.00  100%   16.7%L - 5.0%F - 1.7%M
Dynamism					254,035,708	 424,099.68	 930,533.80	 871,982	 400,290	 2,779,484   mental	273	 273	 100.00  100%   16.5%L - 2.6%F - 1.1%M
Speechless				  230,137,940	 384,203.57	 2,739,737.00   2,688,693   1,429,530   5,549,308   mental	84	  84	  100.00  100%   14.3%L - 1.2%F - 0.0%M
Color Shower				218,431,397	 364,660.10	 5,200,748.00   4,826,345   1,746,123   13,046,138  mental	42	  42	  100.00  100%   9.5%L - 4.8%F - 2.4%M	
Mock						211,359,869	 352,854.54	 1,625,845.00   1,580,569   1,016,524   3,572,270   crushing  130	 130	 100.00  100%   10.0%L - 2.3%F - 0.0%M
Dissonant Note			  209,831,496	 350,303.00	 587,763.30	 553,174	 247,058	 1,789,611   mental	357	 357	 100.00  100%   14.8%L - 3.6%F - 1.7%M
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[blammo]

I do know that last expac my dps was pretty terribad, until I upgraded my CPU and got much better fps. I literally saw my dps double. What kind of framerates are you getting?

Thanks for the suggestions. I'm running what I hope is complete overkill for machine.

2 x X5690 @ 3.46ghz - 12C/24T
48G ram
Nvidia 970GTX
isx/eq2/etc set for single thread, 30fps in client (not ixboxer) cap.
each window shows 30FPS during the training dummy fight.

I'd like to know which class is wearing what purple/white/war runes and what tier. Also do you run temps/scrolls/potions/food/drink...

purple:
all classes : obol/truespirits
healers : ^^ + stun/stifle/empcypher
mages : obol/TS/detaunt/empcypher/32% pot
scouts : obol/TS/detaunt/MA/flurry

food/drink:
5/6H class-specific
not running any temps/builders/scolls/potions

- ogre cast stacks moderately tuned from stock - Guessing this is likely the problem overall.

I appreciate any suggestions for tuning, but nobody seems to want to share good profiles.. the few that exist on the OgreForums are AoM, and most are missing. Anyone have a smoking ranger profile they want to share?

(05:44) Servitor of Yothshaval: 99207355 Ranger-Exploit Weakness-103516146
Ranger | 39876993
Dirge | 19441681
Coercer| 14994409
Zerk | 14421976
Defiler | 5258558
Inq| 5213738

Out of curiousity, what was the HPS for each healer, and total? Trying to gauge if I can single-heal this guy..

 

[blammo]

dropped shaman, added scout (who is a little bit ghetto in gear yet), hit 90M

NAME			 STARTTIME   DURATION  DAMAGE		  DAMAGE%  POWERDRAIN   ENCDPS		 ENCHPS		 DAMAGETAKEN	 DEATHS  CRITTYPES			
Predator		 XX:XX:40 PM  09:59	 15,160,268,884  28%	  0			25,267,114.81  0.00		   917,735		 0	   14.9%L - 4.2%F - 1.3%M
Enchanter		 XX:XX:40 PM  10:04	 11,261,216,679  20%	  131,606,819  18,768,694.47  0.00		   520,294		 0	   18.9%L - 3.7%F - 0.9%M
Bard			 XX:XX:40 PM  10:00	 11,195,749,329  20%	  15,060,376   18,659,582.22  2,285.22	   140,544		 0	   15.0%L - 4.3%F - 0.7%M
Scout			 XX:XX:40 PM  09:59	 9,141,793,639   16%	  0			15,236,322.73  282.12		 349,628		 0	   13.6%L - 2.9%F - 0.4%M
Fighter			 XX:XX:40 PM  10:00	 5,590,584,751   10%	  0			9,317,641.25   139.33		 431,789		 0	   14.4%L - 4.6%F - 0.8%M
Cleric			 XX:XX:40 PM  09:58	 1,671,829,641   3%	   34,408,273   2,786,382.74   19,749.08	  330,344		 0	   16.0%L - 4.0%F - 1.7%M
training dummy	 XX:XX:43 PM  09:54	 0			   --	   0			0.00		   88,118,670.45  54,018,402,371  1	   -

 

[Cheesy]

purple:
all classes : obol/truespirits
healers : ^^ + stun/stifle/empcypher
mages : obol/TS/detaunt/empcypher/32% pot
scouts : obol/TS/detaunt/MA/flurry

Here is one problem then,

Scouts - Drop Screams on your predator. Your dirge should be giving it Battle Cry. Not sure which MA adorn you have, but should have Bolstered Attributes, and something like Magnitude as well.
Healers - Having both healers fully stun/stifle immune is overkill imo. If 1 can heal/cure, that's all you'll need. Emp Cypher is junk, drop that. See below.
Mages - Drop Detaunt, Emp Cypher. Make sure got Bolstered Attributes, and then for chanter I'd go Screams or Magnitude, and Magnitude for Sorc.


Personally I run similar to this;
Tank - Bolstered x2, Rele-Conv, Obol/TS
Dirge - Bols Att, Screams, Rele-Conv, Obol, TS
Cleric - Foundations, Bols Att, Storm Animus, Obol/TS
Shaman - Foundations, Stun Immune, Storm Animus, Obol/TS
Predator - Bols Att, Magnitude, Rele Conv, Obol/TS


Taking a look further up, you are running an Illy/Troub/Predator group? If so, betray that troub. Dirge will give you so much more over troub for a melee group.
However, if insist on keeping setup;

• Your ranger does not appear to have epic.
• Illy isn't using Prismatic Chaos nearly enough.
• Ranger isn't using it's best temp buffs by looks of it.
• Ranger isn't using it's melee CA's nearly enough. Emberstrike/Rangers Blade should be more visible on that parse.
• Your mimicry hits seem quite low. I'd suggest finding a way to get your ranger to request mimicry, rather than random casting. (Look up OgreAPI & Relay Cast).
• Which ever character is using Primordial charm that does pulsing fire damage, swap it to a group buff one.

Overall though, it looks mainly like group setup + profile issue.

If getting really desperate, drop me a PM and I'll see about some profile sharing.

 

[Cheesy]

isx/eq2/etc set for single thread, 30fps in client (not ixboxer) cap.
each window shows 30FPS during the training dummy fight.

I'd consider upping this too. If you are capping FPS, it could be causing you extra delays. Push it up to 45-50 and see if it helps.

 

[blammo]

Update: 04/27/16
Thanks for all the feedback, implemented about as many of the changes as I could manage:

• swapped troub for dirge
• swapped sk for zerk
  
• fixed illy cast stack
• fixed ranger temp buffs
• fixed ranger melee
  
• removed fire charms
• changed primary purple adorns as suggested, except left scouts at 100% AE/100% Flurry as could
  
• 7/8 purple armor spots done (was done before, not noted)
• all have at least 1 group +pot/cb item on (yoth wrist, etc)
• all have at least 1 group +pot/cb charm item on (xoth eye, mawz skull, etc)
• all classes sitting at around 2.5-3k potency during most fights, spike over 4k
• raised/lowered client FPS limits, tried 20/30/40/60, above 30 didn't seem to matter.
• reforged
• multiple little tweaks
• scout gear upgrades

{{{ NEW PARSE 1 - dual healer - 81M }}}

NAME					STARTTIME   DURATION  DAMAGE		  DAMAGE%  POWERDRAIN   ENCDPS		 ENCHPS		 DAMAGETAKEN	 DEATHS  CRITTYPES			
Predator				XX:XX:30 PM  09:54	 19,125,359,941  39%	  0			32,143,462.09  0.00		   0			   0	   14.6%L - 4.2%F - 1.1%M
Enchanter				XX:XX:31 PM  09:59	 10,416,589,503  21%	  150,859,901  17,506,873.11  0.00		   0			   0	   17.2%L - 4.5%F - 0.9%M
Bard					XX:XX:30 PM  09:54	 9,125,680,887   19%	  0			15,337,278.80  66.27		  0			   0	   14.4%L - 4.0%F - 0.7%M
Fighter					XX:XX:29 PM  09:55	 4,838,762,263   10%	  0			8,132,373.55   97.08		  0			   0	   16.2%L - 4.1%F - 1.1%M
Shaman					XX:XX:30 PM  09:53	 2,725,550,439   5%	   0			4,580,757.04   17,802.53	  0			   0	   12.5%L - 3.8%F - 0.6%M
Cleric					XX:XX:29 PM  09:55	 1,599,255,261   3%	   15,245,366   2,687,823.97   3,758.63	   0			   0	   15.2%L - 4.4%F - 1.1%M
training dummy		  XX:XX:37 PM  09:45	 0			   --	   0			0.00		   81,901,761.67  47,829,926,369  1	   -

{{{ NEW PARSE 2 - single healer - 101M }}}

NAME					STARTTIME   DURATION  DAMAGE		  DAMAGE%  POWERDRAIN   ENCDPS		 ENCHPS		  DAMAGETAKEN	 DEATHS  CRITTYPES			
Predator				 XX:XX:44 PM  09:55	 19,252,596,099  32%	  0			32,248,904.69  0.00			358,062		 0	   14.8%L - 4.1%F - 1.2%M
Scout					 XX:XX:44 PM  09:56	 12,860,215,807  21%	  0			21,541,400.01  0.00			127,990		 0	   14.2%L - 3.6%F - 0.8%M
Enchanter				 XX:XX:44 PM  09:56	 10,508,160,017  17%	  158,796,599  17,601,608.07  0.00			0			   0	   15.5%L - 6.0%F - 0.8%M
Bard					 XX:XX:43 PM  09:57	 9,209,280,551   15%	  0			15,425,930.57  856.98		  164,618		 0	   14.1%L - 4.0%F - 0.7%M
Fighter					 XX:XX:44 PM  09:56	 5,185,460,658   8%	   0			8,685,863.75   122.08		  269,323		 0	   15.6%L - 3.8%F - 0.9%M
Cleric					 XX:XX:44 PM  09:58	 1,841,676,079   3%	   23,461,967   3,084,884.55   23,172.71	   178,177		 0	   15.0%L - 3.7%F - 1.5%M
training dummy		  XX:XX:49 PM  09:49	 0			   --	   0			0.00		   101,187,867.08  58,855,913,168  1	   -

{{{ NEW PARSE 3 - single healer - 4 "creature conjured" epicx4 mobs - 185M }}}

NAME					STARTTIME   DURATION  DAMAGE		  DAMAGE%  POWERDRAIN   ENCDPS		 ENCHPS		  DAMAGETAKEN	  DEATHS  CRITTYPES			
Predator			 XX:XX:50 PM  10:19	 31,850,268,411  28%	  0			51,371,400.66  0.00			524,742		  0	   15.2%L - 4.0%F - 1.0%M
Scout				 XX:XX:51 PM  10:18	 28,203,460,154  25%	  0			45,489,451.86  0.00			343,078		  0	   14.5%L - 3.6%F - 0.7%M
Enchanter			 XX:XX:52 PM  10:15	 16,911,067,988  15%	  173,371,527  27,275,916.11  0.00			0				0	   16.7%L - 5.3%F - 1.5%M
Bard				 XX:XX:51 PM  10:17	 15,342,104,832  13%	  0			24,745,330.37  8,169.33		275,949		  0	   13.8%L - 3.5%F - 0.8%M
Fighter				 XX:XX:50 PM  10:20	 14,696,196,018  13%	  0			23,703,541.96  231,677.37	  403,525,745	  0	   15.2%L - 3.8%F - 1.0%M
Cleric				 XX:XX:50 PM  10:20	 5,049,204,798   4%	   52,231,365   8,143,878.71   426,898.98	  573,931		  0	   16.1%L - 5.0%F - 1.2%M
Amygdalan Guardian   XX:XX:50 PM  10:20	 404,513,253	 --	   0			652,440.73	 185,345,662.35  112,051,152,669  0	   -

Appleuser, your group that dropped Servitor in 5 minutes, would you mind posting a 10M TD parse as well? TD's don't mitigate/dodge/block/avoid/etc like mobs do, and I'd love to see what 100% looks like.

 

[Cheesy]

Figures looking better % wise per toon, but still very low I'd expect for the gear levels you stated.

Next step I'd suggest is posting an image showing the breakdown of Outgoing Damage for Predator, and see if we can boost that a bit (Which in turn will boost your chanter).

 

[GamerMac]

• Ranger isn't using it's melee CA's nearly enough. Emberstrike/Rangers Blade should be more visible on that parse.
• Your mimicry hits seem quite low. I'd suggest finding a way to get your ranger to request mimicry, rather than random casting. (Look up OgreAPI & Relay Cast).

Ok.. so my question, because I am in same boat... How would one get ES/RB to hit more often, with your advice I got Daggerstorm to hit more, but these are still slow.
Also.. I am in week 2 or 3 using ISX and Ogre so the hardest zone I have cleared is TD (BUT I only run a 5 man group Zerk/Defiler/Coe or Dirg/Swash and Rang.)... and my toons are about a month old. My biggest problem is gear.. but Yeah I can't get my Coercer to mimicry for that much either.. (Hell I can't get EW on ranger to hit for 100+ for that matter).. Could you elaborate as to what you mean by requesting Mimicry?

And evidently I am guilty of using the Amplifying jewelry (I'm not supposed too, I thought these were good?)
Oh.. and I haven't done the IRC yet.. cause I really am simple when it comes to this. haha..

 

[ctrcivic]

This as well

• Your mimicry hits seem quite low. I'd suggest finding a way to get your ranger to request mimicry, rather than random casting. (Look up OgreAPI & Relay Cast).

 

[blammo]

Here's a parse from the Predator, from Xoth the Everrending, a fairly AOE heavy fight, and he did 40M (second to the Scout at 47M)

TYPE					DAMAGE		 ENCDPS		 AVERAGE		MEDIAN	  MINHIT	  MAXHIT	  RESIST	HITS   SWINGS  TOHIT   CRIT%  CRITTYPES				
All					 3,014,895,918  41,873,554.42  2,396,578.63   1,610,959   13,521	  40,247,116  All	   1,258  1,316   95.59   95%	16.2%L - 4.9%F - 1.3%M 
Blazing Weaponry		431,512,836	5,993,233.83   2,583,909.20   2,401,735   1,265,165   7,816,879   heat	  167	167	 100.00  100%   16.8%L - 7.2%F - 2.4%M 
Early Advantage		 357,820,805	4,969,733.40   12,338,648.45  12,807,138  10,289,666  14,405,536  crushing  29	 29	  100.00  0%	 -						
poison				  305,903,321	4,248,657.24   2,066,914.33   1,853,806   798,919	 9,028,145   poison	148	162	 91.36   100%   13.5%L - 5.4%F - 0.7%M 
disease				 300,577,693	4,174,690.18   2,058,751.32   1,873,930   862,874	 7,314,643   disease   146	166	 87.95   100%   22.6%L - 6.2%F - 1.4%M 
Rapid Salvo			 204,948,636	2,846,508.83   9,759,458.86   9,564,808   7,116,307   15,854,722  poison	21	 21	  100.00  100%   23.8%L - 4.8%F - 0.0%M 
Exploit Weakness		179,980,426	2,499,728.14   16,361,856.91  3,658,200   1,134,232   40,247,116  poison	11	 11	  100.00  100%   9.1%L - 18.2%F - 0.0%M 
Dagger Storm			117,144,917	1,627,012.74   3,254,025.47   3,038,442   2,331,817   7,889,509   piercing  36	 36	  100.00  100%   11.1%L - 2.8%F - 5.6%M 
Stream of Arrows		110,007,661	1,527,884.18   6,111,536.72   6,168,383   3,892,393   10,667,305  poison	18	 20	  90.00   100%   16.7%L - 0.0%F - 0.0%M 
Pirate's Perception	 90,587,753	 1,258,163.24   1,372,541.71   1,283,893   653,670	 2,735,003   slashing  66	 66	  100.00  100%   1.5%L - 3.0%F - 0.0%M	
Repeated Salvo		  86,464,912	 1,200,901.56   1,330,229.42   1,194,154   628,886	 3,398,572   piercing  65	 65	  100.00  100%   18.5%L - 6.2%F - 0.0%M 
Makeshift Arrow		 73,829,743	 1,025,413.10   1,085,731.51   1,083,606   487,633	 2,326,649   piercing  68	 72	  94.44   100%   17.6%L - 0.0%F - 0.0%M 
Blackanvil Strike	   64,579,087	 896,931.76	 3,587,727.06   3,900,521   2,935,563   3,900,521   divine	18	 18	  100.00  0%	 -						
Peace of Mind		   59,147,145	 821,488.13	 1,019,778.36   935,420	 646,389	 2,689,626   mental	58	 67	  86.57   100%   19.0%L - 5.2%F - 0.0%M 
Emberstrike			 55,371,708	 769,051.50	 5,537,170.80   5,639,982   2,538,318   10,317,052  heat	  10	 10	  100.00  100%   20.0%L - 20.0%F - 0.0%M 
Erollisi's Heartseeker  54,667,393	 759,269.35	 1,477,497.11   1,428,213   958,682	 2,856,676   piercing  37	 37	  100.00  100%   24.3%L - 8.1%F - 0.0%M 
Evade				   42,246,055	 586,750.76	 5,280,756.88   4,972,311   3,223,131   7,190,790   piercing  8	  8	   100.00  100%   50.0%L - 0.0%F - 0.0%M 
Crypt's Revenge		 39,796,251	 552,725.71	 1,105,451.42   1,002,152   690,674	 3,032,622   disease   36	 36	  100.00  100%   19.4%L - 2.8%F - 0.0%M 
Fatal Combination	   38,416,164	 533,557.83	 12,805,388.00  12,716,804  6,858,334   18,841,026  poison	3	  3	   100.00  100%   0.0%L - 0.0%F - 0.0%M	
Sneak Attack			37,087,292	 515,101.28	 3,090,607.67   2,881,527   2,255,291   4,714,204   poison	12	 12	  100.00  100%   33.3%L - 0.0%F - 0.0%M 
Blade Chime			 34,557,471	 479,964.88	 493,678.16	 438,535	 272,583	 1,587,312   disease   70	 70	  100.00  100%   15.7%L - 5.7%F - 0.0%M 
Victorious Concerto	 28,589,907	 397,082.04	 1,681,759.24   1,624,097   1,610,959   2,140,502   magic	 17	 17	  100.00  0%	 -						
Quick Shot			  28,411,283	 394,601.15	 1,291,421.95   1,284,928   502,708	 4,458,364   poison	22	 23	  95.65   100%   0.0%L - 9.1%F - 4.5%M	
Dynamism				27,404,651	 380,620.15	 1,054,025.04   1,048,061   502,915	 2,444,212   mental	26	 26	  100.00  100%   11.5%L - 0.0%F - 3.8%M 
Ranger's Blade		  26,722,053	 371,139.63	 6,680,513.25   7,120,661   5,997,354   7,392,077   poison	4	  4	   100.00  100%   0.0%L - 0.0%F - 0.0%M	
Arrow Barrage		   26,684,181	 370,613.63	 2,223,681.75   2,307,554   1,492,628   3,089,227   poison	12	 12	  100.00  100%   8.3%L - 0.0%F - 0.0%M	
Sinister Strike		 26,588,592	 369,286.00	 26,588,592.00  26,588,592  26,588,592  26,588,592  poison	1	  1	   100.00  100%   0.0%L - 0.0%F - 0.0%M	
Clara's Chaos		   24,731,932	 343,499.06	 1,236,596.60   1,149,219   850,057	 2,313,101   disease   20	 20	  100.00  100%   5.0%L - 5.0%F - 0.0%M	
Strike of Faith		 20,780,075	 288,612.15	 1,039,003.75   1,016,340   932,391	 1,382,074   divine	20	 20	  100.00  100%   20.0%L - 0.0%F - 0.0%M 
Natural Selection	   20,087,777	 278,996.90	 4,017,555.40   3,587,332   2,828,637   5,655,326   poison	5	  5	   100.00  100%   0.0%L - 0.0%F - 0.0%M	
Wounding Shot		   18,686,201	 259,530.57	 549,594.15	 409,800	 178,543	 1,451,825   poison	34	 36	  94.44   100%   23.5%L - 5.9%F - 8.8%M 
Bloody Reminder		 15,543,727	 215,885.10	 1,195,671.31   1,301,816   592,904	 1,657,658   poison	13	 13	  100.00  100%   7.7%L - 0.0%F - 0.0%M	
Exploding  Arrow		14,684,837	 203,956.07	 1,835,604.63   1,866,987   1,375,528   2,346,496   heat	  8	  9	   88.89   100%   25.0%L - 0.0%F - 0.0%M 
Searing Shot			13,675,431	 189,936.54	 2,279,238.50   2,034,664   1,562,459   4,039,296   heat	  6	  6	   100.00  100%   0.0%L - 0.0%F - 16.7%M 
Smoke Bomb			  12,902,450	 179,200.69	 4,300,816.67   4,569,335   3,024,588   5,308,527   poison	3	  3	   100.00  67%	0.0%L - 0.0%F - 0.0%M	
Explosive Arrow		 12,090,500	 167,923.61	 6,045,250.00   7,351,200   4,739,300   7,351,200   heat	  2	  2	   100.00  100%   0.0%L - 0.0%F - 0.0%M	
Daring Attack		   6,939,350	  96,379.86	  991,335.71	 765,793	 719,166	 2,289,676   piercing  7	  7	   100.00  100%   0.0%L - 14.3%F - 0.0%M 
Noxious Enfeeblement	2,665,277	  37,017.74	  2,665,277.00   2,665,277   2,665,277   2,665,277   poison	1	  1	   100.00  100%   0.0%L - 0.0%F - 0.0%M	
Zander's Chorus		 1,928,417	  26,783.57	  1,928,417.00   1,928,417   1,928,417   1,928,417   disease   1	  1	   100.00  100%   0.0%L - 0.0%F - 0.0%M	
pierce				  1,063,811	  14,775.15	  42,552.44	  39,864	  19,627	  107,260	 piercing  25	 27	  92.59   100%   24.0%L - 0.0%F - 4.0%M 
Talon Strike			68,197		 947.18		 17,049.25	  17,569	  13,521	  20,409	  slashing  4	  4	   100.00  100%   0.0%L - 0.0%F - 0.0%M	
Killing				 0			  0.00		   NaN			0		   0		   0		   Death	 0	  12	  0.00	NaN	-						
Disorientation		  0			  0.00		   NaN			0		   0		   0		   heat	  0	  3	   0.00	NaN	-

 

[Cheesy]

It looks like your ranger is melee attacking...

 

[Loppy]

Great thread and one thats of huge interest to me as I'm trying to get my ranger to do some decent dps which is proving tougher than I thought.

I've spent a decent amount of time at the training dummy tweaking the cast stack but still only hit about 20m solo. The toon has 2 lacerators but is missing the myth bow, currently using charge blaster which seems......ok. It's annoying as my briggy does 30-40m and my plan was to replace the briggy to get some higher dps in with a view to trying to progress in Masters Chosen.

In the parse above the highest damage was from 'Blazing Weaponry', now my Ranger is left hand prestige spec'd but Blazing Weaponry doesn't show at all. What the hell is it and where does it come from?

 

[Cheesy]

Blazing Weaponry is the Prestige Tree, the "Blazing Weapons" prestige.

It then procs off having your temp buffs - Killing Instinct and Honed Reflexes up.

 

[Loppy]

Ahh yes, I see that now. Thanks.

I'm spec'd for it so I wonder why it didn't proc then, time to check the cast stack again.

 

[Loppy]

I'm still trying to get my ranger semi decent but mostly failing. I'm trying to put together a cast stack but its proving quite tricky.

If I have combat arts in the 'post-cast' tab do I also need them in the cast stack?

Thanks!

 

[GamerMac]

I only use Cast Stack.. I am now averaging 40-50 mil single and 60-70 average on groups in Heroic zones. I keep thinking it should be higher. Maybe I am doing something wrong and should be using the Post Cast as well.

 

[Cheesy]

If you are after Cast Stack help, perhaps might be worth posting a screenshot of it, or similar.

If I have combat arts in the 'post-cast' tab do I also need them in the cast stack?

Not if you want them to reliably post cast.

Post cast will try use that ability directly after the one you set it to. If you have it in the cast stack, it is more likely to go off at random and not be available when you want it to.

 

[GamerMac]

That would explain why sometimes I get a High parse and the next 3 fights are mediocore.
It would also explain why I can't get Mimicry to work the way it supposed to..
I have had a 555mil hit.. Once.

 

[GamerMac]

Ok... so I am a little thick, but I think I got you now. I set my cast stack to what I think is best.. then I set the post to ENSURE they go in the order I want.

If I have that right.. I am ready to move to the next step.. which is.. How do I get Mimicry to go off with Sniper Shot?

 

[blammo]

Update:

Just managed to drop Servitor for the first time Monday (w00h00!) so making some progress.. (even if i did have to verdict him at 09:57 to avoid death).

I wanted to include something that hasn't been said, but turns out is a MASSIVE factor.. so massive, I'm going to put it in bold/red.

If you want to DPS well, you MUST be a Gold member. Period. Why? Because of Prestige items with massive group boosts. Practiced/Brotherhood/etc procs. 6x42% group potency. 6x25% group CB/POT. 873% Potency on a ring. etc etc etc.

Especially with the new GU100 items having MASSIVE amounts of potency on them, available only to members, couple of examples:

http://u.eq2wire.com/item/index/1524212775
http://u.eq2wire.com/item/index/2223229976
http://u.eq2wire.com/item/index/990877015
http://u.eq2wire.com/item/index/3334706927

When I started this process, I was at 3 gold, and the rest were F2P.

Now that only about half my group has now completed the Thalumbra timeline (Klick/Mora ring) the group DPS keeps climbing. The clue for me turned out to be the healer DPS.. Every parse I looked at where the group was putting out crazy DPS, the healers were doing 2x/3x/4x my healers DPS.. as the group potency items keep stacking on, their DPS goes up organically, without any cast stack/etc changes.. Now my healers are doing 6-8M DPS on fights, and I see them burst over 7,000 potency sometimes.

Thank you all for your help in this journey, and hopefully this thread serves to help others having the same struggles.

 

[Cheesy]

Make sure you get heartbound item and bind your toons too. 15 or 30 Fervor (Depending on how often you go to GH) is massive.

 

[appleuser]

How do I get Mimicry to go off with Sniper Shot?

Bumping this request. I tried to get this to work a few months ago but never succeeded. Anyone willing to help?

 

[BootyClaps]

Bumping this request. I tried to get this to work a few months ago but never succeeded. Anyone willing to help?

Create an Announce on your Ranger for Sniper Shot (preferably whatever you have pre-casting on Sniper Shot). Set to "Announce To: Execute in Console"
Enter:
OgreBotAPI:CastAbilityOnPlayer_Relay[<enchanter name/all>, Temporal Mimicry, <ranger name>]
(Replace the <> pieces with the correct info)

 

[Cheesy]

Bumping this request. I tried to get this to work a few months ago but never succeeded. Anyone willing to help?

One of the easiest ways will be to use OgreAPI, a command such as the following;

OgreBotAPI:CastAbilityOnPlayer_Relay[Coercer,Temporal Mimicry,RangersName]

Put the above as an 'Execute in Console' on the announce tab, for the ability you want.

However, I wouldn't advise Snipers Shot, as by the time the announce has got to coercer and it's casting, Snipers Shot will most likely have hit. You'd be better off making some kind of cast chain like Dragon Claws (PreCast) Wreak Havoc (Postcast) Snipers Shot, and having the announce in Dragon Claws.

Just mess around with it a bit and find what works best for you.

 

[appleuser]

Thanks guys, much appreciated.

 

[blammo]

Update : 05/18/16


With the new "rare" items vendor in the game... good grief.. was able to finish outfitting my group with the stuff I'd missed.

https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq2/index.php?threads/new-rare-item-merchant-in-thalumbra.570008/

Everyone has 42% group pot, 30% group CB/POT, 42% group CB.

Dropped Servitor in 6m16s, no deaths, no drama, single healer.

Gotta pay for a couple more accounts, then to start farming GU100 stuff.

 

[Lorgalis]

One of the easiest ways will be to use OgreAPI, a command such as the following;

OgreBotAPI:CastAbilityOnPlayer_Relay[Coercer,Temporal Mimicry,RangersName]

Put the above as an 'Execute in Console' on the announce tab, for the ability you want.

However, I wouldn't advise Snipers Shot, as by the time the announce has got to coercer and it's casting, Snipers Shot will most likely have hit. You'd be better off making some kind of cast chain like Dragon Claws (PreCast) Wreak Havoc (Postcast) Snipers Shot, and having the announce in Dragon Claws.

Just mess around with it a bit and find what works best for you.

This doesn't work for me. Do I need to put it in Ranger and Coercer? I add it to Ranger announce and such, but Coercer never casts Temporal. I'm likely doing something wrong

 

[mattb]

There are non prestige versions, not quite as good but OK. Mainly from Fabled Zones or Collections from Fabled Zones (CT and RoV)