Updated Ogre Profile Request Thread!

DaggerSplicer

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Moderator Note: This thread is now the offical OgreBot Profile Request Thread! Or you can look here.

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DaggerSplicer Wrote:
Are there any current updated pofiles that are adjusted for COE? I have a Monk/Brig/Troub/Inq/Myst setup currently. Also have coe/illy/warlock that is sub into my group when I need power/dps from time to time as a sixth man due to most days my system struggles with a 6man group setup.
 
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DaggerSplicer

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Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Check the ogre wiki.
You know that was the first place I checked. The profiles are out of date back from August, other than ALI's profile. I tried to adjust my personal profile based on cast orders which I used b4 I discovered botting. I can say that the dps for me is litterally a 1/4 of what I can get going manual. My manual dps using a 5 manned group is normally in the 650-800k range but when I decide to bot it drops shapely to around the 150-300k range. There has to be something that I'm not adjusting in my personal profiles which eludes me at this time.
 

Kevinshp

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Re: Updated COE class Profiles

You know that was the first place I checked. The profiles are out of date back from August, other than ALI's profile. I tried to adjust my personal profile based on cast orders which I used b4 I discovered botting. I can say that the dps for me is litterally a 1/4 of what I can get going manual. My manual dps using a 5 manned group is normally in the 650-800k range but when I decide to bot it drops shapely to around the 150-300k range. There has to be something that I'm not adjusting in my personal profiles which eludes me at this time.
Use the profiles from the wiki then add the new prestige spell where they should be in ca tab or priority tab or where they best fit. THEN MAKE SURE YOU RUN (OGRE SPELL) or your new spells and maybe even some of your old ones won't work because ogre doesn't think you have them.
 

bjcasey

ISX Specialist
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

For things like DPS, a human is always going to do more damage than a bot due to the ability to anticipate and adapt to changes.

Where a bot is better than a human is:

1)Bots take the same bathroom break for the same amount of time as you do.
2)Bots generally perform the same from day to day because they aren't tired or just broke up with someone.
3)Bots can react to movement requirements (if they are coded to do so) faster than a human can.
4)Bots don't complain about the loot you give them or how it isn't fair that the Troub got the new weapon over the beastlord.
5)Bots don't have annoying voices that you have to listen to tell the same sob story about how they grew up in an orphanage with nobody to love them.

Humans are better than bots when:

1)There is something that needs to be anticipated.
2)When ISXEQ2 is down for patching (although many would make the argument that on those patch days why bother to log in).
 

DaggerSplicer

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Re: Updated COE class Profiles

For things like DPS, a human is always going to do more damage than a bot due to the ability to anticipate and adapt to changes.

Where a bot is better than a human is:

1)Bots take the same bathroom break for the same amount of time as you do.
2)Bots generally perform the same from day to day because they aren't tired or just broke up with someone.
3)Bots can react to movement requirements (if they are coded to do so) faster than a human can.
4)Bots don't complain about the loot you give them or how it isn't fair that the Troub got the new weapon over the beastlord.
5)Bots don't have annoying voices that you have to listen to tell the same sob story about how they grew up in an orphanage with nobody to love them.

Humans are better than bots when:

1)There is something that needs to be anticipated.
2)When ISXEQ2 is down for patching (although many would make the argument that on those patch days why bother to log in).
HaHA, this is too fuuny. I do get your point. I just figured I must be doing something wrong within my profiles because upon reading the boards here I see others are cranking high dps from their bots. Considering factors that are indisputable differences based on size of group, gear, adornments, aa's ect...I just would like to see if I could get some of the same results. I will continue to tweak my profiles, so once I reach a comfortable level of output for my toons I will post those details on the wiki profiles.
 

bjcasey

ISX Specialist
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

HaHA, this is too fuuny. I do get your point. I just figured I must be doing something wrong within my profiles because upon reading the boards here I see others are cranking high dps from their bots. Considering factors that are indisputable differences based on size of group, gear, adornments, aa's ect...I just would like to see if I could get some of the same results. I will continue to tweak my profiles, so once I reach a comfortable level of output for my toons I will post those details on the wiki profiles.
A LOT of those high parses are with characters that have the best or near the best of gear with the BEST group setups for them.
 

Ali

Active Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

What works best for dps/cast order wise when playing a character yourself doesn't always translate well to the bot playing the character. A lot is just figuring out what works best with the bot and then having the right group setup on what you're aiming for - ie. melee dps, caster dps, defensive, etc.
 

byaussy

Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

CoE has been out for quite a while now, and I've still only seen one profile that even shows any CoE stuff.

I've tried to tweak things myself, but I gotta be honest (and I don't think I'm alone here), I really don't have the experience or knowledge with most classes to make informed choices, and my "tweaking" hasn't done much good.

Browsing through the Dummy Parse Thread, and comparing my gear levels with some of those parses, I am WAY behind. I love to tweak as much as the next guy, but it would be extremely helpful if I wasn't using 15 month old profiles as a starting point.

Any chance we might get some updated profiles posted? The Wiki even says CoE profiles would be posted soon after CoE was out, but that just hasn't happened, not even from you Kannkor (poke).

Hopefully I don't sound like I'm bitching, but I think that's probably the most beneficial thing you could do for your subscribers is to give them as much of a solid starting point as possible, and those on the WiKi just are not up-to-date enough to be all that useful.

/soapbox off
 

Ali

Active Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

You might have a bit better luck asking on forums for specific ones. There are several on the wiki that won't be updated since the person doesn't play anymore as well.
 

Kannkor

Ogre
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

If someone updates a class profile and sends it to me, I can put it on my patcher. It will not automatically change the profile your using (because most people wouldn't want that, but you can always use the default one if you want).

The problem is, everyone that says they will update one and send it to me, never, ever happens.

I personally spend, very, very little time updating/tweaking my profiles. If I have time to spend, it's usually coding something.

I'll even admit, on most of my characters I just took double conversions just for the simple fact they help me 'now' until I get around to looking into the new abilities.
Some i spent the 3 minutes to tweak some stuff.
Like for my guardian, I made an MCP button to cast his ability.

The sample profiles are really there to provide basic functionality and basic example of where to put the majority of your abilities. Trying to maintain 25 profiles would be a nightmare :)
 

DaggerSplicer

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Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Hello all.

I have an awesome coercer's profile that you may consider. The profile does blazing dps 350k to 450k and power heals for the group w/o even trying hard due to being raid spec'd mostly 187+ geared with 605ma -330cb -320pot - 98ae- 150 cast speed -120 reuse speed - 450cc. The only comment I would say with this profile is that it sux for range damage at around 150k dps because it takes melee attack damage as its corner stone, so I would recommend you use your symbols/books verus using a wand.
 

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Kevinshp

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Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Hello all.

I have an awesome coercer's profile that you may consider. The profile does blazing dps 350k to 450k and power heals for the group w/o even trying hard due to being raid spec'd mostly 187+ geared with 605ma -330cb -320pot - 98ae- 150 cast speed -120 reuse speed - 450cc. The only comment I would say with this profile is that it sux for range damage at around 150k dps because it takes melee attack damage as its corner stone, so I would recommend you use your symbols/books verus using a wand.
Thanks, will give it a shot, what AA specs do u use?
 

DaggerSplicer

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Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Thanks, will give it a shot, what AA specs do u use?
I take a pracmatic approach with my aa settings. That is to say, "If I don't find a daily use for it, then it's of no use or value to me." So, you have to use your own intuition for what works for you. So, take my settings with a grain of salt and adjust accordingly.

Enchanter tree

STR 10-10-10-1. This tree is a must have for any non-pure caster worth their salt. This spec not only doubles your melee range but adds 85 to your piercing and crush abilities along with increasing your avoidance by 10% of its base value as well as adding 48 to your dps/ma/haste values and gives you two fast casting/recast ca's counter blade/spell counter curse when matched with nullifying staff puts out hugh melee dps that interupts the mobs attacks. Yeah any chanter avoiding this tree should just quit the class all together.

AGI/(STA 04-10-10-1) These two trees are very subjective based on the needs of the raid/group. I keep a mirror for just those needs. Normally, I take the STA line over AGI because lets face it, by the time your 90 or higher the AGI tree is obsolete anyway. However, pre90 you want all the help you can get with casting speed-recovery-defense. Don't rule out chronoshiponing altogether the debuff it gives is an added benefit to your raid/grp, so put four points there if you can spare. Remember debuffs are your best friend. The STA tree is where you start to shine as a chanter. I usually precast IR for the healers right before the pull, which when matched with 8% extra healing from Empathic Aura ensures that your healers have time to focus on cures to keep your group alive longer. Trust me your healers will love you for it. Now, for the tanks, they would like you as well because of Empathic Breeze which adds 8% hate reduction to the group if not a fighter. Yes, I know any tank of value won't have a need for this at all but it's better safe then sorry. I admit that I don't bother with sever hate any longer unless its detrimental for the tank. Normally, I would just cast coercer shout along with thought snap to get the mob back on the tank. however, its still good to have for those times when the tank dies and need an immediate recourse because everything else has been exhausted.

WIS (/facepalm). Unless you are an admit solo gamer and never raid/group dont consider this tree. EVER! However, for those of you who do solo, this tree is very effective on COE trash/bosses outside of raids of course but only COE. Everything else prior top COE is either a waste of time because of trash life span during fights or just non-mezzable mobs. This is none more true than with DOV and SF.

INT 10-4-9-1. I love nullifying staff because it not only adds to my melee dps, it also fits well in between casting counter blade and spell counter curse for an effective 1-2-3 punch and the added debuff is always a bonus. I added 4 points to savants insight only because you don't need more than that and you have no choice as it is. I placed 9 points into savants channel for obvious reasons.

SF additionals: 8 points into wild swings for 24% melee frontal AE. 8 points into uninterruptable actions. 2 points in channel for those times when the bragging illy fails to do their job which is often j/k.... Not really!

The other trees are just more for dps enhancement/increasers which are pretty much self explainable so I will spare you a long post about them.

I hope this helps you guys out. I have played my coercer as well as other classes since eq2 launch date mitgrating from eq1 back in it's early launch days from Feb. 2000. I have a lot of experience under my belt with all classes in the game. Let me know if I can answer any questions.
 
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Taubstumm

Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Btw, with today's update on obols/spirits being group-wide, if you aren't raiding, then steward's gear is a great starting point for all of your toons. I collect obols/spirits to gear up my alts. This gear will make you parse close to raiders and shouldn't be overlooked.

While instance running, keep your eyes out for 160-163 legendary gear (mute the rest). Your toons should all at least have that. I'm a microsoft excel freak and am constantly tracking my gear for mains and alts, if they aren't 160+, their slots are flagged for update asap. (easier for me to look at the spreadsheet than to switch between three casters to verify if they need the upgrade).

Also, one group the raid trash. Sneak past Caerina in HEx4 and get you some shoulders, helms and legs. If you can handle it and understand what the mobs are doing, STx4 trash drop BPs and boots.

I think I derailed the topic. Oh well, I'm still posting this.
 

cudacuf

Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

I've been trying to tweak Hollows Necro Profile. It's still not quite where I want it to be. But, when and if I ever get it together, I'll be sure to share it.

Btw, if anyone is really good with tweaking the profiles and would be available in the IRC for me to pick your brain, I'd love to schedule a time.
 

bob_the_builder

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Re: Updated COE class Profiles

While instance running, keep your eyes out for 160-163 legendary gear (mute the rest). Your toons should all at least have that. I'm a microsoft excel freak and am constantly tracking my gear for mains and alts, if they aren't 160+, their slots are flagged for update asap. (easier for me to look at the spreadsheet than to switch between three casters to verify if they need the upgrade).
Have you seen http://www.everloot.com/ ?
 

DaggerSplicer

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Re: Updated COE class Profiles


Ok. I will bite at the cost of being totally clueless here. What is this site? The URL takes you to a registry that indicates coming soon. What's coming soon? Is it a more efficient way to keep track of gear? or is it just another hard to navigate website full of item codes for gear? Please enlighten us or me at least my good knowledgeable sir. :dazed:
 

Taubstumm

Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

I made an acct when you first made this available, but I don't use it because it's not fast enough for me. My spreadsheet is listed by the stamina, which helps me determine if my toons have the fabled trash loot or the fabled named loot (179 trash, 187 named). Since there are only 3 numbers instead of words, this also makes it a tighter, compact spreadsheet so I don't have to scroll at all. The only hangup I have is determining if I have that wrist/charm/ring/ear already when it comes to getting the second one.

I love your database, it's just not fast enough for me at this point in time.
 

bob_the_builder

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Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Also, one group the raid trash. Sneak past Caerina in HEx4 and get you some shoulders, helms and legs. If you can handle it and understand what the mobs are doing, STx4 trash drop BPs and boots.
STx4 is the new ST raid zone? Arent there two ST raid zones now? One at the portal and one at the door?

I assume your talking about the new raid zone.
 

DaggerSplicer

Active Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Can we get back on topic here. Do any of you pro's have a profile to offer that will assist the newcomer's to the community.
 

Riven

Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

As I wrote in my post, I'm in need of a warlock profile, would be nice to get an updated one. Haven't got any answer yet :(
 

DaggerSplicer

Active Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

As I wrote in my post, I'm in need of a warlock profile, would be nice to get an updated one. Haven't got any answer yet :(
I am still working on my Warlock. I got him to the point where he does great on group heoric encounters. Still, haven't factored in the single target dps. His group encounters is in the 350k+ range and single encounter is still 150k range. I will post it when I feel a little more comfortable with him.
 

Riven

Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

I am still working on my Warlock. I got him to the point where he does great on group heoric encounters. Still, haven't factored in the single target dps. His group encounters is in the 350k+ range and single encounter is still 150k range. I will post it when I feel a little more comfortable with him.
Cool, thanks for your efforts
 

Cheesy

Well-Known Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Does anyone happen to have a Swashbuckler script that is semi decent? As hard as I've tried, I can't get mine to work effectively compared to others I've done like BL or Ranger.

I've checked the Wiki for one and found none anywhere, and browsed deep into forums with no success.
 

wco12

Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Here is my Coercer profile. I tested the Daggersplice setup and this profile (both base ones with and without autoattack timing), and this one was giving me about 10% more dps. Autoattack timing for both setups resulted in lower dps for me so I have it turned off by default. I suggest testing both profiles for your specific setup.

My AA setup is very similar to his, except I lose a few points in str/sta to secure 4/10 in agi for the recovery speed.

View attachment EQ2Save_wco12_coercer.xml

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This is my Troub profile. It does about 16%-21% of my group's DPS (SK/Mystic/Inquis/Coercer/Troub/Wiz) when 1 grouping COE raid mobs. More in heroic zones, group stuff or in raid zones where it doesn't die to random AEs/death touches. About 190k solo vs a single training dummy.

I use Deadly Dance in Heroic and my Bard tree AAs are in flux quite a lot while I try to figure out the best setup for what I do, so you might want to double check the buff list and make sure everything you use is there before you try this profile.

I'm really not sure how this one stacks up compared to other scripts that have been posted in the past, I just know it's better for me than the default one.

View attachment EQ2Save_wco12_troubador.xml

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This is my Inq file. It has two profiles: heals and dps. Both are based off an Inq profile found in the OgreWiki (bjcasey's maybe?) The only real difference between the two is the priority tab. The heals profile chain heals to a ridiculous degree, and the dps tab does more maintenance and reactive healing. The dps spec is still a capable healer for almost everything. For the COE raid content I do it works great with the Mystic in dps spec with no problems. If I run into trouble I switch to the heal spec for crazy overheals and try to power through.

For me, these profiles do 120k (heals) and 220k (dps) when 1 grouping COE raid mobs. This is with a Skyshrine fabled 2h, mostly Skyshrine armor and COE jewelry. That's about 16% of my group's dps.

View attachment EQ2Save_wco12_inquisitor.xml

Sometime soon I'll put up profiles for SK, Mystic, and Wizard.
 
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Gorrok

Active Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Thanks alot for posting the profiles, i cant wait to try the Coercer profile as i have not had alot of luck in fine tuning.
Would love to see your Wizard profile, as i have benched my wizard as his DPS was just not what i had expected.
And would love to bring him back out of the moth balls.
 

Tantroth

Well-Known Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Both the troub and the inq profiles seem to be working pretty well compared to what I was using before, interested in seeing the rest of yours now!
 

wco12

Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Shadowknight profile. It's pretty straightforward as I play the tank 99.9% of the time and only need it to press buttons for me while I fiddle briefly with other things.

Does a little under 400k single target in my group, defensive, with a Doz head 1h+shield (the +18% block weap) and 650-700k in reckless with a 2H. vs 2-3 mob encounters it pulls 600k-700k defensive/1h+shield and 1.2-1.5m reckless/2h.

View attachment EQ2Save_wco12_shadowknight.xml

Spec:

STR 10/10/2/1/1
AGI 4/4
STA 8/4/10/1/0
WIS 4/8/10/1/8
INT 0/0/0/0/8
1 rank in CF

Heroic HP, 8pot, 10cb, 10reuse, 10 CF, zealous smite

Prestige: double conversion with 3 in chaotic blade and 2 in chaotic hatred because reap is crap.

Reforged to +50 accuracy.
 

Tantroth

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Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Nice profile, but really odd choice going for the prestige you did. I'm in COE raid gear, some pow pieces, and going with right side prestige, I can easily beat your profile with kannkors. More power to you if it does work for you though. I've done a fair bit of testing, and with my setup, right side is far better than double conversion. No need for eating DT's (Considering I have yet to even find one in COE). Damage reduction doesn't really mean much when your not taking much damage to begin with, which I don't, even tanking in reckless with a twohander most of the COE raid named have yet to kill me.

After looking a little more closely, I'm guessing some of it might be that you reforged accuracy, I went AE auto. Still, nice profile.
 
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Ebofu

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Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Nice profile, but really odd choice going for the prestige you did. I'm in COE raid gear, some pow pieces, and going with right side prestige, I can easily beat your profile with kannkors. More power to you if it does work for you though.

After looking a little more closely, I'm guessing some of it might be that you reforged accuracy, I went AE auto. Still, nice profile.
Double Conversion is overall the better spec imo, CF dmg reduction is just too clutch to give up and speccing into Blade is good for eating DTs as a crusader
 

wco12

Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Nice profile, but really odd choice going for the prestige you did. I'm in COE raid gear, some pow pieces, and going with right side prestige, I can easily beat your profile with kannkors. More power to you if it does work for you though. I've done a fair bit of testing, and with my setup, right side is far better than double conversion. No need for eating DT's (Considering I have yet to even find one in COE). Damage reduction doesn't really mean much when your not taking much damage to begin with, which I don't, even tanking in reckless with a twohander most of the COE raid named have yet to kill me.

After looking a little more closely, I'm guessing some of it might be that you reforged accuracy, I went AE auto. Still, nice profile.
When you say you can beat my profile with kannkor's, do you mean your parse with my Ogre profile is lower than your parse with kannkor's Ogre profile, or do you mean that the DPS numbers I posted above are lower than your parse with kannkor's Ogre profile?

In my tests I get ~10% higher DPS with the profile I posted than I do with Kannkor's profile. I also get ~10% higher DPS going from right side spec to double conversion + chaos blade

Here's some example single epic training dummy parses with just a 4 man group (SK-reckless 2H/Inq/Coercer/Troub):

532,000 2:07 (kannkor; right side spec)
557,000 2:02 (wco12; right side spec)
575,000 2:00 (kannkor; dbl convert+blade)
634,000 1:59 (wco12; dbl convert+blade)

I'm surprised you perform better with right side. I was originally right side, but was underwhelmed with the Reap parse numbers. I did some excel math and realized that 3 CB+2 points in the dot on 1 guy is about as good as a fully upgraded Reap hitting 2 guys. On its own that would still favor of right side for DPS, but I also get 30 potency + some defensive stuff if I go double conversions. For me it seems that the 30 pot beats reap for dps.

I'd love to get more info on your setup to help improve my DPS since you do a lot more than me. I run raids with 1 6-man group of SK/Mystic/Inquis/Coercer/Troub/Wiz. I've only been back in the game for a couple months (last played in SF) and raiding for a couple weeks so my gear is a pretty even mix of CoEx4, SS Doz head, and CoE collection jewelry. I need all the DPS help I can get so I don't fall asleep on this billion HP crap with 6 dudes heh.
 
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Gorrok

Active Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

I have been playing around with the SK profile given the information above and have seen a 30% increase in DPS :D.
Would you happen to have a profile for a wizard that can get it to parse like a Tier 1 DPSer should parse?

Any help would be much apreciated.
 

Tantroth

Well-Known Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

When you say you can beat my profile with kannkor's, do you mean your parse with my Ogre profile is lower than your parse with kannkor's Ogre profile, or do you mean that the DPS numbers I posted above are lower than your parse with kannkor's Ogre profile?

In my tests I get ~10% higher DPS with the profile I posted than I do with Kannkor's profile. I also get ~10% higher DPS going from right side spec to double conversion + chaos blade

Here's some example single epic training dummy parses with just a 4 man group (SK-reckless 2H/Inq/Coercer/Troub):

532,000 2:07 (kannkor; right side spec)
557,000 2:02 (wco12; right side spec)
575,000 2:00 (kannkor; dbl convert+blade)
634,000 1:59 (wco12; dbl convert+blade)

I'm surprised you perform better with right side. I was originally right side, but was underwhelmed with the Reap parse numbers. I did some excel math and realized that 3 CB+2 points in the dot on 1 guy is about as good as a fully upgraded Reap hitting 2 guys. On its own that would still favor of right side for DPS, but I also get 30 potency + some defensive stuff if I go double conversions. For me it seems that the 30 pot beats reap for dps.

I'd love to get more info on your setup to help improve my DPS since you do a lot more than me. I run raids with 1 6-man group of SK/Mystic/Inquis/Coercer/Troub/Wiz. I've only been back in the game for a couple months (last played in SF) and raiding for a couple weeks so my gear is a pretty even mix of CoEx4, SS Doz head, and CoE collection jewelry. I need all the DPS help I can get so I don't fall asleep on this billion HP crap with 6 dudes heh.
Once I get logged in I'll do a parse for you, but offhand, I run an illy and a conjuror instead of your coercer and wiz. Elemental Toxicity is pretty nice for SK's. Hmm, I might stand corrected, against a single epic dummy kannkors right side matches yours somewhat closely. I'll do some more once the guildhall empties out a bit. Got me curious now as to what I messed up testing this weekend.
 
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shadow1385

Active Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

This thread has peaked my interest. What other classes have you seen benefits from the double conversion?

I played around with my troub profile last night and noted a 20k increase (solo on an epic dummy) by converting to a double conversion.

I've changed one of my SK's now as well. Its an interesting idea.
 

wolfppo

Active Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

I haven't reforged anything on any toons so far I'm a bit lost as to who needs what does it make a huge difference?
 

Kevinshp

Well-Known Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

I haven't reforged anything on any toons so far I'm a bit lost as to who needs what does it make a huge difference?
YES!
you can get toons to 600 ma and get casting speeds maxed and such, too much to make a list here but it helps a ton!
 

Cheesy

Well-Known Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

This thread has peaked my interest. What other classes have you seen benefits from the double conversion?

I played around with my troub profile last night and noted a 20k increase (solo on an epic dummy) by converting to a double conversion.

I've changed one of my SK's now as well. Its an interesting idea.
While your troub's dps will increase going double conversion, it will decrease your groups DPS overall, without the potency attached to the right side, and the faster recast on VC.

SK, Mystic and Assassin are the main classes that chose to go for double Conversion really, most others are better going for a specific side.
 

bob_the_builder

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Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Double Conversion is for Prestige points

that means they are taking the two sides on the top (10 total or 20 points spent) and then choosing something from the middle or maybe a few (5 points left) on the sides.

Make sense?? basically its just going down both sides equally.
 

shadow1385

Active Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

While your troub's dps will increase going double conversion, it will decrease your groups DPS overall, without the potency attached to the right side, and the faster recast on VC.

SK, Mystic and Assassin are the main classes that chose to go for double Conversion really, most others are better going for a specific side.
Yeah I played around with the troub in in double conversions last night running the same zone with the right side selected then again with double conversions. The troubs dps did go up at the cost of a 8% drop in the groups over all dps.

I tried the double conversion with the Inquisitor. That led to a very dramatic failure and loss of significant dps.

I'll have to look at the mystic again and see whats really there.

Always trying to find that little bit of an edge.

Thanks for your tips and advise.
 

Ebofu

Well-Known Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Double Conversion is huge for Mystic, same with Inquisitor, key is scrapping Inquest and Verdict for Interrogation ward.
 

tarbasch

Senior Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Double Conversion is for Prestige points

that means they are taking the two sides on the top (10 total or 20 points spent) and then choosing something from the middle or maybe a few (5 points left) on the sides.

Make sense?? basically its just going down both sides equally.
Yep, perfect thanks.
 

shadow1385

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Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Double Conversion is huge for Mystic, same with Inquisitor, key is scrapping Inquest and Verdict for Interrogation ward.
Well.. I botched my last attempt at the Inquisitor. If you'd give me some idea how you spent the points for either class, I would greatly appreciate it. I think i know how you would do the mystic but I am addicted to Immunizations so I'm not sure I would give that up.

Thanks as always.....
 

Kevinshp

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Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Btw, with today's update on obols/spirits being group-wide, if you aren't raiding, then steward's gear is a great starting point for all of your toons. I collect obols/spirits to gear up my alts. This gear will make you parse close to raiders and shouldn't be overlooked.

While instance running, keep your eyes out for 160-163 legendary gear (mute the rest). Your toons should all at least have that. I'm a microsoft excel freak and am constantly tracking my gear for mains and alts, if they aren't 160+, their slots are flagged for update asap. (easier for me to look at the spreadsheet than to switch between three casters to verify if they need the upgrade).

Also, one group the raid trash. Sneak past Caerina in HEx4 and get you some shoulders, helms and legs. If you can handle it and understand what the mobs are doing, STx4 trash drop BPs and boots.

I think I derailed the topic. Oh well, I'm still posting this.
would u mind sharing this spreadsheet?
 

Ebofu

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Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Mystic is both conversions, 3 points in Mystics Ritual (Top Middle) and either 2 in Support or 2 in Ferocity, my preference is towards Ferocity for CB but you if you need heals, support.
Inquisitor is both conversions, 3 Interrogation, 2 Prepared Defenses. I found it to parse equal or better than full right side using ogre. Most 'actual' inqs use full right side.
 

shadow1385

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Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Mystic is both conversions, 3 points in Mystics Ritual (Top Middle) and either 2 in Support or 2 in Ferocity, my preference is towards Ferocity for CB but you if you need heals, support.
Inquisitor is both conversions, 3 Interrogation, 2 Prepared Defenses. I found it to parse equal or better than full right side using ogre. Most 'actual' inqs use full right side.
Thanks for the reply. I shall have to play with this a bit more it seems.
 

fl0pster

Active Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Anyone have a Coe Warlock Profile? Been doing some research and cant seem to get the numbers I was expecting..

Group
Sk
Inq
Warlock
Mystic
Troub
Illy

Most the time the warlock is around the Troub/Inq dps level....Wondering if i should betray to an Wizzy...

Any information with past experiences would help greatly!.
 

bobdole

Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

From what I've read on the Warlock forums on EQ2 flames, I would suggest betraying, but that's just me.

There's a laundry list of buggy or flat out not working abilities that they catalogue on the forums there.

It's also important as a Warlock to have Time Warps being used at the proper time with your own abilities so as to not have over lap and maximize your dps etc. Wizards don't have nearly as much upkeep and definitely don't have as many busted abilities.

All that said summoners are better now imo.
 

Taubstumm

Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

This site isn't allowing me to upload my file. PM me with an email address and I'll email my spreadsheet to you. - Also, it's in openoffice format. I don't have microsoft excel on this computer. Openoffice.org has top notch products for free.
 

tarbasch

Senior Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Noob Alert!!


Ok, lets say I have a friend that wants to update his beastlord profile with lets say Dudesters sample profile on the wiki, how would he go about doing that? He claim he right click and saved it to his folder where all the other profiles are but when he logs in Dudesters profile isn't there, only the original Kannkor profile is on the drop down. I.....err my friend would like to try several of the profiles from the wiki that has been updated.
 

Tantroth

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Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Noob Alert!!


Ok, lets say I have a friend that wants to update his beastlord profile with lets say Dudesters sample profile on the wiki, how would he go about doing that? He claim he right click and saved it to his folder where all the other profiles are but when he logs in Dudesters profile isn't there, only the original Kannkor profile is on the drop down. I.....err my friend would like to try several of the profiles from the wiki that has been updated.
You need to rename the file, so instead of EQ2Save_Sample_Dudester.xml you change it to EQ2Save_Server_Charactername.xml. Obviously, Server would be your server, and charactername would be your toons names. If you already have a file with your characters name, I'd suggest changing the .xml to .bkp or something else, so that you'll still have the old profile if you ever want to use it again.
 

leery

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Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Hey all. Have had some luck with some of these profiles, but not with others. Kannkor's newest Warlock profile is pretty nice.

Does anyone have a solid Illy, Mystic, Inquisitor profile they could share please? I'm struggling with those three.


Running an SK/Illy/Troub/Warlock/Mystic/Inq


Thanks all :)

-Leery
 

MrObvious

Senior Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Agreed I have tried all the profiles posted, and just not happy with some. I really need a better:

Wizard and Mystic.

I know it takes some time to clean up the profiles and transmit them, but it is a huge help for people newer to Ogrebot.

Thanks!
 

Cheesy

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Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Does anyone have a solid Illy, Mystic, Inquisitor profile they could share please? I'm struggling with those three.
Far from Perfect, but hopefully these will both help a bit:

View attachment EQ2Save_Server_Inquisitor.xml

View attachment EQ2Save_Server_Mystic.xml

Both parse usually 300k ish on nameds in Altar/Harrows etc, and never had any issues with healing.

Could use a really good Illy/Wizzy profile myself for my mage group. Illy currently does ok, but think it could perform better.
 

dwdavis2

Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Not a profile that the world has been clamoring for, but I like my ranger so I spent some time trying to put a decent one together. Plus, rangers might be more viable once the no-minimum-range patch goes in.

The spec I'm using:
http://www.beetny.com/eq2aa/#GU65;g...51045@3011t3a0@38a00a51t50330210010330330@411

My single-training-dummy parse:
(06:42) training dummy: 2627392 ranger-Exploit Weakness-1632297
range | 1041844
coerc | 430157
bruis | 368447
dirge | 351718
inqui | 243333
mysti | 191892
 

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Cheesy

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Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Alternative ranger profile which I've been spending some time on. (Ready for GU66)

Spec Required:
This.

Profile notes:
AE attacks are generally disabled unless doing AE content, can change them yourself if you want, but I preferred to save them for when needed AE wise.
Searing Shot will need changing to Ignore Duration when GU goes live, but otherwise should be ok.

View attachment EQ2Save_Sample_Ranger.xml
 
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Anyone have updated profiles after gu66 for Brigand, Assassin, and Guardian? I will love you long time!!!!

I keep trying to update them but I'm only able to make it worse :( I can manually play my assassin like a monster but just not able to script it correctly. So please any help would be appreciated!

Thanks all!
 

Cheesy

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Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Does anybody have a GU66+ Zerker Profile? Been messing with Dudesters from the Wiki but not happy with how its performing overall currently. Its nice, but not matching my others currently.
Also maybe a Coercer, mine seems to have taken a massive plunge in dps since GU66 and not sure why apart from the class changes.
 

MrObvious

Senior Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

I am looking for a ranger profile where someone has figured out the right pre-cast with Coverage and/or predator's final trick to maximize dps. I have had trouble figuring out the right tabs for CA/Named CA's and the pre-casts in particular. Does someone have an amazing ranger profile that they can post please?
 

Rodent

Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Coverage will never work because it's buggy as shit on SOE's side. Only way to do it would be with Wreak Havoc, which no one specs for because the other line is generally better due to being almost comparable on single targets and vastly better on ae.
 

MrObvious

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Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Coverage will never work because it's buggy as shit on SOE's side. Only way to do it would be with Wreak Havoc, which no one specs for because the other line is generally better due to being almost comparable on single targets and vastly better on ae.
I actually got it working pretty consistently in a chain tab:

Rear Shot (makes Coverage available)
Predator's Final Trick
Coverage
Sniper Shot
Other Stealthed Abilities

It seems to pop Coverage pretty well in my testing.
 

Cheesy

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Re: Updated COE class Profiles

I am looking for a ranger profile where someone has figured out the right pre-cast with Coverage and/or predator's final trick to maximize dps. I have had trouble figuring out the right tabs for CA/Named CA's and the pre-casts in particular. Does someone have an amazing ranger profile that they can post please?
As Rodent said, Coverage is buggy as hell to use even normally, let alone scripted. Its better overall to just not use it. Posted my ranger spec a few posts back too. Did 1.5 mil on Berik last week when I decided to use it in raid so I could eat dinner. Play around with it and the AE's in CA's tab. In my posted one they are disabled for single target, as most content I was doing with it had waves of adds I wanted it saved for.
 

Snitchez

Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

Cheesy,

Do you mind posting your AA spec on your mystic? I'd like to give that profile a shot.
 

insanitywiz

Senior Member
Re: Updated COE class Profiles

As Rodent said, Coverage is buggy as hell to use even normally, let alone scripted. Its better overall to just not use it. Posted my ranger spec a few posts back too. Did 1.5 mil on Berik last week when I decided to use it in raid so I could eat dinner. Play around with it and the AE's in CA's tab. In my posted one they are disabled for single target, as most content I was doing with it had waves of adds I wanted it saved for.
Not all that difficult to make work actually, though it won't fire 100%. Just put Coverage at the top of your CA list, and put a post cast in for each of the abilities you want it to fire off. It certainly will have times when it fires with no post cast ability ready, but not all that often.
 
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